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| Quote ="The_Mighty_F90"*blather*'"
So no direct quote then? Only you keep claiming that he [isaid[/i we needed 14,500 to break even. That's a very specific claim which includes a very specific number. In the absence of a direct quote we have to assume that you're either an idiot or a liar.
Which is it?
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| Quote ="Kosh"So no direct quote then? Only you keep claiming that he [isaid[/i we needed 14,500 to break even. That's a very specific claim which includes a very specific number. In the absence of a direct quote we have to assume that you're either an idiot or a liar.
Which is it?'"
Are they mutually exclusive in this case ?
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Are they mutually exclusive in this case ?'"
Good question. Given his posting history, probably not.
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| Quote ="The_Mighty_F90"NO'"
how much is it to cross your bridge?
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| A troll tribute act, whatever next?
[two bob talent show judge You need to work on your mock confusion at unlikely scenarios of your own imagining and arch rhetorical questions. You've got the persistence down perfectly though. Hours of pedantic semantic fun await. Or a ban.[/two bob talent show judge.
For the record, if there were no Hull KR playing at any level, and it was a genuine merger, I reckon I'd switch allegiance. I enjoy following (mostly from afar) RL and I grew up in Hull.
Despite needing it much more, a merger would be no guarantee of success though. Can you imagine watching on and thinking 'after all that, we're still poop'?
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| Quote ="Kosh"So no direct quote then? Only you keep claiming that he [isaid[/i we needed 14,500 to break even. That's a very specific claim which includes a very specific number. In the absence of a direct quote we have to assume that you're either an idiot or a liar.
Which is it?'"
Not the behaviour of a mod calling people idol idot or a liar
If Fc could only just break even on crowds of 13,700 and more investment has been put into the club why would you not think 14,500 is the figure needed to balance the books?
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| Quote ="The_Mighty_F90"Not the behaviour of a mod calling people idol iota or liars.
If Fc could only just break even on crowds of 13,700 and more investment has been put into the club why would you not think 14,500 is the figure needed to balance the books?'"
What's an idol iota?
Where's this direct quote of Pearson stating our break-even figure? Found it yet? Or are you ready to admit you either made it up or failed to understand the article you keep linking to?
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"A troll tribute act, whatever next?
[two bob talent show judge You need to work on your mock confusion at unlikely scenarios of your own imagining and arch rhetorical questions. You've got the persistence down perfectly though. Hours of pedantic semantic fun await. Or a ban.[/two bob talent show judge.
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Rather sad, really. The worst part is he seems to think he's being really clever.
Quote ="Mild Rover"Despite needing it much more, a merger would be no guarantee of success though. Can you imagine watching on and thinking 'after all that, we're still poop'?'"
Given the recent history of both clubs I'd say that's rather likely.
My gut reaction is that I'd probably not follow a merged club and would switch to whatever 'Real FC' type club inevitably sprung up in the amature leagues. Following a sports club isn't all about success - otherwise I'd have switched clubs long ago.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"a merger would be no guarantee of success though. Can you imagine watching on and thinking 'after all that, we're still poop'?'"
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| Pretty good debate on a particularly thorn subject. Not read it all but there are so many politics surrounding the two teams that it seems nigh on impossible to carry out.
I don;t know whether its age or just reason that tells me this is realistically will become a serious option at some point int he future. Will probably involve a team based at the KC and inevitably will end up with KR being reformed in another guise and FC ending up being reverted back to being what they are today.
The worst part would be that we'd lose what little bit of glory we all get today which is a friendly (in most cases) one up manship on the old enemy.
For anyone who has seen megamind it kind of reminds what rugby in our town would be like to me if FC went bust (vice versa for you lot).
Would I go, probably for a while then I'd lose interest and find something better to do.
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| Quote ="Kosh"So no direct quote then? Only you keep claiming that he [isaid[/i we needed 14,500 to break even. That's a very specific claim which includes a very specific number. In the absence of a direct quote we have to assume that you're either an idiot or a liar.
Which is it?'"
I said Pearson stated that they needed 14,500 to balance the books.
Learn to read idiot.
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| Quote ="The_Mighty_F90"I said Pearson stated that they needed 14,500 to balance the books.
Learn to read idiot.
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He never said that, you thick .
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"He never said that, you thick lover.'"
Why is it not possible that Hull FC do need 14,500 to balance the books?
If they could only just manage to break even on averages of 13,700 and lack of investment.
If Pearson has had to invest more surely the crowd average would need to increase to cover
the extra investment.
What bit are you not getting?
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| Quote ="The_Mighty_F90"I said Pearson stated that they needed 14,500 to balance the books.
Learn to read idiot.
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Balance the books and break even are one and the same thing, daft lad.
Tell you what, post a direct quote where he said either. Should be easy enough.
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| Quote ="The_Mighty_F90"Why is it not possible that Hull FC do need 14,500 to balance the books?'"
It's [ipossible[/i that FC need any one of a range of crowd numbers to balance the books. But that isn't what you said. You said that Pearson [istated[/i that FC needed 14,500 to balance the books. Show us where. Or are you man enough to admit that you can't?
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| Quote ="Kosh"It's [ipossible[/i that FC need any one of a range of crowd numbers to balance the books. But that isn't what you said. You said that Pearson [istated[/i that FC needed 14,500 to balance the books. Show us where. Or are you man enough to admit that you can't?'"
OK you win. I am stating that based on previous crowd figures against profit
and the said injection of investment from Adam Pearson.
Hull FC need around 14,500 just to balance the books.
Can't see that happening any time soon
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| Quote ="The_Mighty_F90"OK you win. I am stating that based on previous crowd figures against profit
and the said injection of investment from Adam Pearson.
Hull FC need around 14,500 just to balance the books.
Can't see that happening any time soon'"
There you go - growing up can be painful, but you've taken an important first step. One day you'll be able to join in discussions with adults without completely embarrassing yourself. Unfortunately for you, today is not that day...
Your analysis is flawed for a number of reasons. The largest of these is that you're basing it on incomplete data. You have no idea what the club's cost base was before Pearson took over or what it is now - only that it's been increased. You have no idea how the profit on the 13k crowd was calculated or what other income streams were like. You've ignored - possibly deliberately - that Pearson points out that crowd numbers are only one (important) factor in increasing the club's revenue.
In other words, you have no clue whatsoever what our 'balance the books' crowd figure might be at any given point. Your posts are pure guesswork. Which is your prerogative, but don't expect any of the grown-ups to take you seriously.
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| Quote ="Kosh"There you go - growing up can be painful, but you've taken an important first step. One day you'll be able to join in discussions with adults without completely embarrassing yourself. Unfortunately for you, today is not that day...
Your analysis is flawed for a number of reasons. The largest of these is that you're basing it on incomplete data. You have no idea what the club's cost base was before Pearson took over or what it is now - only that it's been increased. You have no idea how the profit on the 13k crowd was calculated or what other income streams were like. You've ignored - possibly deliberately - that Pearson points out that crowd numbers are only one (important) factor in increasing the club's revenue.
In other words, you have no clue whatsoever what our 'balance the books' crowd figure might be at any given point. Your posts are pure guesswork. Which is your prerogative, but don't expect any of the grown-ups to take you seriously.'"
There seems to be a direct relationship between crowd figures and profit or loss
even if you don't know all the other factors.
I am predicting a £700,000 loss for FC this season.
What is your prediction? Lets see who is right at the next announcement.
And why resort to silly little insults? As a MOD you should know better.
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| If the next announcement is that your a boring , then every poster who's read your drivel will be right.
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| Quote ="The_Mighty_F90"There seems to be a direct relationship between crowd figures and profit or loss
even if you don't know all the other factors.'"
And the 'No Sh*t, Sherlock' award for 2013 goes to....
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| Quote ="Kosh"And the 'No Sh*t, Sherlock' award for 2013 goes to....'"
I see you avoided the question.
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| Quote ="The_Mighty_F90"I see you avoided the question.
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Because unlike you I'm prepared to admit that I have no idea and any figure I come up with would be just a guess. Only a child would be interested in something like that. And I'm a grown-up.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Because unlike you I'm prepared to admit that I have no idea and any figure I come up with would be just a guess. Only a child would be interested in something like that. And I'm a grown-up.'"
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| Quote ="The_Mighty_F90"icon_lol.gif'"
When the argument is lost, use the or smilies.
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