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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"i would still like to see a centre and a winger brought in,even more so if and possibly hall and calderwood are released.sounds like shenton is following the distinct smell of £££ so we can forget him.there aren't that many about tho' so i suppose kevin penny for calders could be an option(needs to improve his defence i admit,but hasn't played much 1st team grade lately).he has pace to burn,and the sight of 2 quick wingers on our flanks could look promising in an attacking sense.the centre position could be a problem,as i dont think whiting and turner are long term options.'"
I'd rather play and develop Reece Lyne than bringing in Penny.
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| Quote ="Dave K."
Maybe Shenton, but I arent overly impressed with him, think he is overated.'"
Agreed don't see what people see in him, has looked distinctly average when I've seen him play.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Dont worry about the backrow and sign a back up halfback.
interesting with no quota spots looking available who the players we are talking too, there are few wingers, props and backrows out there, but cant see any centres off quota that a better than we have.
Maybe Shenton, but I arent overly impressed with him, think he is overated.'"
Don't think we are interested in Shenton, I have always rated him but he has not had a good season. Think he will end up at Wigan or Saints.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I'd rather play and develop Reece Lyne than bringing in Penny.'"
it does actually look that way.maybe give calders a 1 year deal in the process?maybe on same sort of terms(not an international now,so cant expect too much money?).centre position is the one we may struggle with.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"it does actually look that way.maybe give calders a 1 year deal in the process?maybe on same sort of terms(not an international now,so cant expect too much money?).centre position is the one we may struggle with.'"
I really think we're fine in the centres. I'd be more concerned about quality cover for 6 and 7 if we get injuries to Horne and Long.
Maybe if we bring a winger in they could play full back to cover Tansey moving to 7 in the absence of Long.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I really think we're fine in the centres. I'd be more concerned about quality cover for 6 and 7 if we get injuries to Horne and Long.
Maybe if we bring a winger in they could play full back to cover Tansey moving to 7 in the absence of Long.'"
maybe why owen and murphy were mentioned on earlier threads
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I really think we're fine in the centres. I'd be more concerned about quality cover for 6 and 7 if we get injuries to Horne and Long.
Maybe if we bring a winger in they could play full back to cover Tansey moving to 7 in the absence of Long.'"
If we bring in a centre then Whiting could also cover fullback for Tansey if need be.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"If we bring in a centre then Whiting could also cover fullback for Tansey if need be.'" think turner is already cover for centre
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I really think we're fine in the centres. I'd be more concerned about quality cover for 6 and 7 if we get injuries to Horne and Long.
Maybe if we bring a winger in they could play full back to cover Tansey moving to 7 in the absence of Long.'"
I disagree, we only have one quality established centre, Yeamo, with Turner developing (nicely)...unless you mean we will use Berro in the centre?
Whiting is a top class utility player and should be used for that role.
I would like to sign another top class defender (sorry centre )
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| turner's coming on leaps and bounds at centre now that we have finally decided he isn't a stand off. he's bulking up a bit too and we could have a pretty good centre on our hands given time
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"what it does mean is that we dont need to recruit a centre.
A winger is what we need as well as a prop. Maybe a back rower depending what happens.'"
A winger and a half back!
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| Quote ="the artist"turner's coming on leaps and bounds at centre now that we have finally decided he isn't a stand off. he's bulking up a bit too and we could have a pretty good centre on our hands given time'"
2 massive plays in the Saints game from him - took his try very, very well then dislodged the ball in the tackle to give us possession for the set for the winning drop goal.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"think turner is already cover for centre'"
I thought we were talking about FB cover in case Tansey was required to cover the halves?
Either way we have been talking to a centre for next season.
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| Quote ="the artist"turner's coming on leaps and bounds at centre now that we have finally decided he isn't a stand off. he's bulking up a bit too and we could have a pretty good centre on our hands given time'"
Definitely played his best rugby for Hull to date at centre. He doesn't appear to have the organisational skills for a half and probably not the sharpness - loose forward could be his final destination. Certainly big enough.
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| Quote ="the artist"turner's coming on leaps and bounds at centre now that we have finally decided he isn't a stand off. he's bulking up a bit too and we could have a pretty good centre on our hands given time'"
Needs to work on his sliding defence, left Whiting on his own too many times on Friday night!
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I thought we were talking about FB cover in case Tansey was required to cover the halves?
Either way we have been talking to a centre for next season.'"
Good because that's what we're seriously lacking for me. We only have Yeaman everybody else who's covered there this year are just that, cover imo.
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| Good point.
If we sign a quality centre, who can put there winger away almost at will. We should be definitely be looking at moving Yeamo to the right centre spot. Yeamos superior defence against most other centres should see him move to the right because most teams have there best attacking centre/wing partnership on the left. Yeamo should be used to stop this imo.
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| Or we could sign a quality winger and play Yeamo and Tom in the centres.
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"Or we could sign a quality winger and play Yeamo and Tom in the centres.'"
For me Toms a natural centre, i think thats the way forward
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies". . . .maybe give calders a 1 year deal in the process?maybe on same sort of terms(not an international now,so cant expect too much money?) . . . .'"
Deffo offer Calders a one year deal on our terms. If he gets a start elsewhere then good luck to him, I wish him well. Other than that, he's the player with best hustle in the squad after Ogre. He's keen, hunts the ball well, has a tidy amount of niggle about him and with service is a proven try scorer.
I would most not be upset at seeing him get a new deal (subject to medical opinion !).
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| Quote ="Largeparts"Deffo offer Calders a one year deal on our terms. If he gets a start elsewhere then good luck to him, I wish him well. Other than that, he's the player with best hustle in the squad after Ogre. He's keen, hunts the ball well, has a tidy amount of niggle about him and with service is a proven try scorer.
I would most not be upset at seeing him get a new deal (subject to medical opinion !).'"
Oh, he's Englsih to boot so no quota space to use/waste.
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| Quote ="Largeparts"Deffo offer Calders a one year deal on our terms. If he gets a start elsewhere then good luck to him, I wish him well. Other than that, he's the player with best hustle in the squad after Ogre. He's keen, hunts the ball well, has a tidy amount of niggle about him and with service is a proven try scorer.
I would most not be upset at seeing him get a new deal (subject to medical opinion !).'"
totally agree, I think a lot of people are writing Mark off just because he's had some bad injuries. He's a great marker tackler especially for a winger & still has a fair turn of pace plus all the other attributes you mentioned. Get him right & maybe find either another out & out winger or centre depending on how he goes & what position Agar wants Tom Briscoe at(centre for me personally)
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| Quote ="gary-hfc"For me Toms a natural centre, i think thats the way forward'"
I would love to see Tom get a run at centre. He is one of the few players with that special talent of scoring classic tries from a standing start!
His pace and strength could make him a revelation at centre.
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| From a running angles perpective, strength, pace and footwork he could make a very good centre. This thing is though defending at centre is one of the hardest things to do so this would also need working on with him, his positional play will need improving as will his decision making. He need to know when to come out and when to stay put and also need to know when to pass.
We have no evidence whatsoever that he will be a better centre than winger and I am not sure why people want him moved, what's wrong with him where he is. Also we don't know what his passing game is like, a few times when he has made breaks he has ignored an obvious pass and bombed a try or thrown a bad pass out. Again this is down to decision making.
If we sign a centre then Briscoe will stay on the wing for another year or two imo.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"From a running angles perpective, strength, pace and footwork he could make a very good centre. This thing is though defending at centre is one of the hardest things to do so this would also need working on with him, his positional play will need improving as will his decision making. He need to know when to come out and when to stay put and also need to know when to pass.
We have no evidence whatsoever that he will be a better centre than winger and I am not sure why people want him moved, what's wrong with him where he is. Also we don't know what his passing game is like, a few times when he has made breaks he has ignored an obvious pass and bombed a try or thrown a bad pass out. Again this is down to decision making.
If we sign a centre then Briscoe will stay on the wing for another year or two imo.'"
If Briscoe stays on the wing and never gets the opportunity to play centre then we will never know how good a centre we already have at the club!
Of course he will have to learn to defensive side of playing there but you must admit he has progressed very well so far with everything thrown at him and he strikes me as the kind of kid who is willing to listen and learn in an attempt to develop his own game.
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