Litten
Swift
Sutcliffe
Scott
McIntosh
Trueman
Clifford
Fash
Houghton
Sao
Tuimavave
Savelio
Cator

Brown, Satae, Dwyer, Staveley

Would be my team. Lane dropped, and Taylor rested. He did a good job in the derby but his shoulder can't be 100% so just give him another week to rest it, no need to push him.

A lot of fans seeing that Carlos to the back row makes sense. Maybe that's why we are all in here, rather than at the University training the side this morning

You might be right, a lot of people also said that about Griffin. Quite similar positions and think he has all the attributes to play there. Whiting, Watkins, Chev Walker Griffin all made the move latter in their career, surley worth a try (can't be any worse than Fash).

I think it would be a good move for Carlos, so I am with everyone on here. However, I can't recall Uncle Tony saying anything about it, or mentioned in the HDM by Dan - I think Scott will play there again before Carlos does

I know Scott has played there before and it's been mentioned by Smith, just Scott playing well in the centre, so I'd leave him there. But think if anyone gets moved it will be Scott.

At this time in his career is Scott big enough for 2 row?. Tuime looks bigger and more physical for it ATM.

Not many on here said that about Griffin moving into the second row.In fact very few
It got pooh poohed by many including the clique who still blindly saw him as a top centre.

When you watch Carlos you can see he has deceptive strength,good footwork,decent defence and a rugby brain.
Think he would easily make the transition

Well you can’t really be watching him buddy, because in his last few games he’s missed tackles, ran the wrong lines, dropped loads of ball, and his brain has been in reverse, his place in the side must be at risk never mind the back row. Hope it’s only temporary mind, I love the guy.

Let's just hope Darnell's upward trajectory continues as the Oracle informed us that he'd only ever be good enough for the reserves.

Corrected for you!!

When I left for a little warm weather training, we’d been duffed by that lot, and looked for all the world the worst team in the league.

Darnell and a few others looked hapless, I got back for the cup game ( Griffs game) and the return league match again against saints, the transformation of the team is unbelievable, with certain individuals developing into fine players, lord knows what happened, but long may it continue, all along we needed a coach who could analyse the situation, Tony Smith has done a great job so far, been a pleasure watching our team lately.

Against Rovers five Hull players missed more tackles than Carlos, against Catalans nine more and against Saints eight more.

Never really been a stats sort of guy, I like to watch my team, Carlos hasn’t been good recently, as I said I hope he returns to his high standards as soon as possible, the emergence of Cam Scott and the solid performances of Sutty have made the centre position very interesting.

Assuming Sutcliffe and Savelio are fit I'd go:
1. Litten
2. Swift
3. Sutcliffe
4. Tuimavave
5. Mcintosh
6. Trueman
7. Clifford
8. Sao
9. Houghton
10. Fash
11. Savelio
12. Scott
13. Cator

14. Taylor
15. Satae
16. Staveley
17. Dwyer

Carlos one of our top metre makers last Sunday.

Yes you can eat up the metres bringing the ball back, but if you were at the match, he made uncharacteristic errors, his game seems off, incidentally what marks did Dan our HDM writer award him. It’s all opinions of course, and I wouldn’t be averse to trying him in the back row, but for me if it’s a centre for centre decision Cam has his nose in front.

Think it would be difficult to transition from centre to second row at the back end of the season.
Have to run different lines, have to defend differently.
Things you’d work on in pre season.

Can see Staveley getting some game time now. Saturday would be a good opportunity to have another look.

I think as we pick up points it will be as you were, if our play off chance does evaporate then we have a real good opportunity to look at Nick and a few others at the expense of players who are departing or underperforming, one thing is nailed on, AP investment in youth is already looking promising.

Stop talking sense.

Litten
McIntosh
Carlos
Sutcliffe
Swift
Trueman
Clifford
Tag
Mint
Sao
Savelio
Lane
Fash
Subs
Brown
Satae
Dwyer
Scott
Cator took a knock early on in the derby so can see him been rested if Savelio fit, Litten over Shaul for me, Gardiner to miss out for me. Might as well have Scott on the bench who can cover a few positions.

Disappointed not to see Staveley named in the 21 mans squad for Cas if I'm honest given the fact that Lane has been and continues to be lacking in any real form.

Hull 21-man squad:
2. Adam Swift, 3. Carlos Tuimavave, 4. Liam Sutcliffe, 5. Darnell McIntosh, 6. Jake Trueman, 7. Jake Clifford, 8. Ligi Sao, 9. Danny Houghton, 10. Chris Satae, 11. Andre Savelio, 12. Jordan Lane, 13. Brad Fash, 14. Joe Lovodua, 15. Joe Cator, 17. Cam Scott, 20. Jack Brown, 25. Davy Litten, 26. Harvey Barron, 29. Jamie Shaul, 30. Scott Taylor, 33 Brad Dwyer

With Hoy out for a few games, makes much more sense to give Litten a run of a few games than Shaul.

Disappointed about Staverley, but if he didn't make the Rovers 17, he has less chance with Savelio and Sutcliffe back, I'm sure he will get his chance later in the year.

I think Staveley is unlucky, there's no way he can offer less than Lane is at the moment.

Yep I agree, as you said pretty much same as me in regards to Lane as had Griffin not been banned Lane wouldn't be playing. Even since the ban Lane just hasn't stepped up and his form all season has been pretty poor (as it has for some time), especially defensively. With Griffin now no longer at the club I'd have hoped we'd see Staveley being introduced in to the 21 even if it was just to but some pressure on Lane to perform (knowing a player is there waiting).

As you say from the reports on how Staveley has been playing he certainly can't offer or perform any less than Lane.

Has Staveley been ripping it up in the championship?

Not seen his name much on the try charts and for a 2nd rower/centre should be getting his fair share in lower league if he really "is all that"

Heard all this about Hookem and ended up releasing him and he's hardly getting a look in at cas either!