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| If their not conforming to given plans like in previous poor defended games then dont pick them, in that case take a gamble on a youth who will listen who want to progress further
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"It's just one off individual errors again, we have the worst back line in the top 6 IMO and it really shows against the top teams (e.g. Leeds/Wigan).'"
I agree about our backline in the sense that we ought to at least have one or two to ourselves, but failure to backup runners has been symptomatic of Agar's time in charge, as has our poor sliding defence as Kosh says.
I'm just about to press submit as Wigan run another in, could this end up being our worst home defeat?...
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"I agree about our backline in the sense that we ought to at least have one or two to ourselves, but failure to backup runners has been symptomatic of Agar's time in charge, as has our poor sliding defence as Kosh says.
I'm just about to press submit as Wigan run another in, could this end up being our worst home defeat?...'"
To be fair to Agar, failure to back up has been a feature since Bomber left.
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| We were beaten b4 we came out tonite, you could see it in the teams body language. I didnt expect a win tonite but I cant see how we prepared for this one, it looks like we have not catered for Wigans wrestle in the tackle at all. We should be changing our style to suit the challenges of different opposition and I just cant see that tonite
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| Quote ="super sub terry day"We were beaten b4 we came out tonite, you could see it in the teams body language. I didnt expect a win tonite but I cant see how we prepared for this one, it looks like we have not catered for Wigans wrestle in the tackle at all. We should be changing our style to suit the challenges of different opposition and I just cant see that tonite'"
This is what worries me the most. The number of times we just don't seem to be up for a game is inexcusable IMO.
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| Agar said on radio we were 4th but may not be there later !! if he was churchill then my name would be Wolfquin Vuegerring
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"How do you know it wasn't and it's just poor backs that don't execute the plans?'"
Even if that were true (which it isn't) it amazes me how many people don't get that it's still the managers fault.
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| Did John Kear go more much much less in hindsight
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"Did John Kear go more much much less in hindsight'"
No. Kear had lost the player Agar quite clearly hasn't. We're 4th. Look at Kear now, he can't even get Wakefield in the top 8.
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"No. Kear had lost the player Agar quite clearly hasn't. We're 4th. Look at Kear now, he can't even get Wakefield in the top 8.'"
Err .....?
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| If Agar hasn't lost the players, what's the excuse for tonight's and the Wakefield performance?
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"Did John Kear go more much much less in hindsight'"
Nope.
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| Quote ="World of Redboy"If Agar hasn't lost the players, what's the excuse for tonight's and the Wakefield performance?'"
I'm not sure all I know is that our captain was singing his praises on TV last night whereas Kear's captain was 'out for the season' only to return the game after Kear left.
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| Hardly surprising if Agar hasn't lost the players, they know that as long as he hangs on to job by the skin of his teeth they can continue to collect their salaries for masquerading as rugby league players! How many of our players would actually get a contract elsewhere?
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| if agar hasnt lost the players then its sh@t coaching that is bringing about poor performances AND HE SHOULD GO
if agar has lost the players and their not following his game plan then it is more financially beneficial to rid ourselves of the one rather than the many AND HE SHOULD GO only imo of course
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| Quote ="faithful13"if agar hasnt lost the players then its sh@t coaching that is bringing about poor performances AND HE SHOULD GO
if agar has lost the players and their not following his game plan then it is more financially beneficial to rid ourselves of the one rather than the many AND HE SHOULD GO only imo of course'"
Or sh@t players? Our backs are really poor IMO and that cost us big time tonight.
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| Quote ="Howlin' Coyote"Hardly surprising if Agar hasn't lost the players, they know that as long as he hangs on to job by the skin of his teeth they can continue to collect their salaries for masquerading as rugby league players! =#0000FFHow many of our players would actually get a contract elsewhere?
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Most of them.
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| I thought Hull showed signs of cockiness before hand. You could see on Sky they were doing kick ups in the warm up and everything
And against teams without bleached hair you lot are useless!
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| Quote ="Kosh"Most of them.'"
But the vast majority only at clubs at a lesser level than where we consider ourselves to be at.
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"Or sh@t players? Our backs are really poor IMO and that cost us big time tonight.'"
It's not so much about poor backs, it's the defensive structures which are poor, and Wigan didn't have to play particularly well to exploit them.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Most of them.'"
I will rephrase the question, how many of our players would actually command a contract at a Super League side on similar terms to what they are on here? Unless we are vastly over paying some of them I struggle to see how we can be anywhere near the salary cap when you compare our squad to the others in the top 8.
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| Quote ="World of Redboy"If Agar hasn't lost the players, what's the excuse for tonight's and the Wakefield performance?'"
The squad in depth is not good enough, and his main men are old and injury prone, not rocket science.
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| Quote ="Howlin' Coyote"I will rephrase the question, how many of our players would actually command a contract at a Super League side on similar terms to what they are on here? Unless we are vastly over paying some of them I struggle to see how we can be anywhere near the salary cap when you compare our squad to the others in the top 8.'"
Really? The top 5 I might give you, but the top 8? Take another look.
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| Quote ="Scott_HKR"I thought Hull showed signs of cockiness before hand. You could see on Sky they were doing kick ups in the warm up and everything
And against teams without bleached hair you lot are useless!'"
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| We must get some proper backs , it was a big gamble going into the season very bare on backs and tonight it showed again
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