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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Would keep Lee. From having loads of hookers, if Houghton goes on loan and we release Lee, we've no cover for Berro.
I really hope Houghton's loan is to the right club. Anyone know if Berro's deal is a straight 4 year one or 3 with an option? If the latter, maybe the plan is for Houghton to get a lot more gametime in 2010 and come back as first choice? Houghton is OOC at the end of 2010 though. Not sure where all this is going.
For the rest, Moa and Maloney need to play every week for the rest of the season to judge them. I do like the way Moa works the crowd though.
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Would be disappointed to see Houghton go on loan I want him to play with Berro (3 + 1 option I think). I would release Lee. As for Moa he needs to be given a chance now and looks like he could do it. As you say a character engaging the crowd is a refreshing change. Maloney I like but I'm not sure he is physically big enough for SL prop.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Would keep Lee. From having loads of hookers, if Houghton goes on loan and we release Lee, we've no cover for Berro.
I really hope Houghton's loan is to the right club. Anyone know if Berro's deal is a straight 4 year one or 3 with an option? If the latter, maybe the plan is for Houghton to get a lot more gametime in 2010 and come back as first choice? Houghton is OOC at the end of 2010 though. Not sure where all this is going.
For the rest, Moa and Maloney need to play every week for the rest of the season to judge them. I do like the way Moa works the crowd though.
'" Berrigan is 3 with an option I think, this is what I said on the hooker thread, if they do send him on loan it has to be on the understanding he will be that teams starting hooker, somewhere like cas would be good! Then after a year as a starting 9 he should be in good shape to be ours! Would extend his contract though! Don't want him going somewhere, enjoying it and have him fob us off!
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Would be disappointed to see Houghton go on loan I want him to play with Berro (3 + 1 option I think). I would release Lee. As for Moa he needs to be given a chance now and looks like he could do it. As you say a character engaging the crowd is a refreshing change. Maloney I like but I'm not sure he is physically big enough for SL prop.'"
Disagree only on that point. Relatively cheap, can cover 7,9,11,12,13. Not fantastic but has shown a brilliant attitude to come back and deliver adequately as a squad player at this level when he was subject to massive criticism last year. I'm guessing he's being offered more cash elsewhere, in which case good luck to him, but it looks like we're going with a smaller better quality squad next season and I think Lee's versatility and attitude would bring something to the party.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Disagree only on that point. Relatively cheap, can cover 7,9,11,12,13. Not fantastic but has shown a brilliant attitude to come back and deliver adequately as a squad player at this level when he was subject to massive criticism last year. I'm guessing he's being offered more cash elsewhere, in which case good luck to him, but it looks like we're going with a smaller better quality squad next season and I think Lee's versatility and attitude would bring something to the party.'"
I would keep Lee as well, but money talks.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Disagree only on that point. Relatively cheap, can cover 7,9,11,12,13. Not fantastic but has shown a brilliant attitude to come back and deliver adequately as a squad player at this level when he was subject to massive criticism last year. I'm guessing he's being offered more cash elsewhere, in which case good luck to him, but it looks like we're going with a smaller better quality squad next season and I think Lee's versatility and attitude would bring something to the party.'"
Think he's done OK this year but for me not the required quality. As you say depending upon cost I suppose he might get a cheap deal with us. If he can get a hooking role at another SL club good luck to him.
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| I know this is a chat and speculate forum.......But i'd just love to know where everyone gets their sources from
Surley.....the players mentioned aren't locked away in a box and wrapped in cling-film each week so they don't hear anything!!! Although...I suspect Adam Dykes may have been last year. (if only he had been fit for the final eh?)
It would be nice to know that Agar is telling the lads that they are playing for their FC careers.......and meaning it!!! Hull FC have this season, vastly under achieved. We are down to eleventh in the league, no Wembley to look forward to and losing players to injuries again. I think we still can make the play offs.....and hopefully get some recovered and refreshed squad members back to be in with a chance of at least winning a play-off game! (against Hull KR would be pleasent!!!!! ).
To sum up........I don't think discussing who 'WE THINK' is going and who 'MAY BE' staying is healthy for any team members who 'may' log on to RLfans for a sneaky-peek!!!!
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| Quote ="BORIS THE SPIDER"Get rid of the gang of 4
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and chuck in Thorman there lies your problem.'" WHY TICKLE ,BEEN 1 OF OUR STAND OUT PLAYERS THIS SEASON
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| So it's
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Does that mean Lee's departure to Salford is not happening ?? And does that leave enough room for a "marquee" type signing or are we now looking at just a couple of signings like Turner and Rooney ???
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| Quote ="dano"WHY TICKLE ,BEEN 1 OF OUR STAND OUT PLAYERS THIS SEASON'"
Off field attitude?
Plus we already have a goalkicking 2nd rower signed up for next season, who is far better at the rest of the game too.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"So it's
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Houghton going out on loan
Does that mean Lee's departure to Salford is not happening ?? And does that leave enough room for a "marquee" type signing or are we now looking at just a couple of signings like Turner and Rooney ???'"
Is Hall definately 1 though?
This period out on loan may be the clubs way of furthering his career and preparing him for more of a role next season, much like they did with Wheeldon and Fev a few years back.
Do we really need a "marquee signing"?
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| Quote ="TKOAH"Off field attitude?
Plus we already have a goalkicking 2nd rower signed up for next season, who is far better at the rest of the game too.'" YES ANOTHER AUSSIE THATS DRAWING HIS PENSION, AT LEAST TICKLES YOUNG AND ENGLISH
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| Quote ="dano"WHY TICKLE ,BEEN 1 OF OUR STAND OUT PLAYERS THIS SEASON'"
because hes not good enough imo
burnett & fitz in the 2nd row for me next year with manu on the bench
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| Quote ="TKOAH"Is Hall definately 1 though?
This period out on loan may be the clubs way of furthering his career and preparing him for more of a role next season, much like they did with Wheeldon and Fev a few years back.
Do we really need a "marquee signing"?'"
I think a world class centre would be fantastic and maybe a good British forward. FWIW I would release :
King
Dowes
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Maloney
G Horne
That's only 9 but I would imagine that it would give us plenty of salary cap for anorther couple of quality signings. Another big prop, a SO and a centre would do for me.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"I think a world class centre would be fantastic
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I'd settle for one half as good as that old bald headed bloke who took us apart last night.
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| Seeing as Dowes, Cusack, Luauki, O'Meley will be here next season I'd also like to keep Moa and Maloney as our props.
Always thought Kingy is too light or atleast looks it to be a prop compare to most other props he comes up against.
Thackray always runs with aggresion but can't keep hold of that bloody ball.
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| Quote ="TKOAH"Off field attitude?
Plus we already have a goalkicking 2nd rower signed up for next season, who is far better at the rest of the game too.'"
On field he is average at best too this season. Big disappointment for me.
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| Quote ="dano"YES ANOTHER AUSSIE THATS DRAWING HIS PENSION, AT LEAST TICKLES YOUNG AND ENGLISH'"
and Tickle has less ability. Surely we want the best team we can field?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"On field he is average at best too this season. Big disappointment for me.'"
Tickle or Fitzgibon?
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| Quote ="Smiggs"I'd settle for one half as good as that old bald headed bloke who took us apart last night.'"
Senior makes me laugh. Gets away with murder in term of loads of sly, niggly little infringements that go unnoticed (bit like McMenemy used to do) - exactly the sort of player you want in your team and hate to play against. A couple of years ago we were linked with him and people said he was too old - he looks OK to me.
Thinking about it, centre is another position we have scrimped on over the last few years (albeit not to the same extent as SH) - Sid Domic was OK, but really since Barnett we've not had real class there.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Senior makes me laugh. Gets away with murder in term of loads of sly, niggly little infringements that go unnoticed (bit like McMenemy used to do) - exactly the sort of player you want in your team and hate to play against. A couple of years ago we were linked with him and people said he was too old - he looks OK to me.
Thinking about it, centre is another position we have scrimped on over the last few years (albeit not to the same extent as SH) - Sid Domic was OK, but really since Barnett we've not had real class there.'"
How dare you knock Richard Whiting, you do know he once won Super Leagues YPOTY playing in the centre don't you?
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| Quote ="Smiggs"I'd settle for one half as good as that old bald headed bloke who took us apart last night.'"
Me too. I listen to people slating Senior, he's been a fantastic player for Leeds and still is for me. We've struggled to contain him for years regardless of whom we've had in the centre.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Was what I was told last night.
On that basis, we will be paying some off or helping them find new clubs
Motu
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King
Thorman
Lee
Maloney
Hall
Moa
Realistically would that be a bad thing?
I always liked G Horne, but I think he is not up to making a position his own
Sam Moa would keep, visa dependent though?
Maloney, Hall and Lee. Disappointed to lose youngsters but its clear we have to ship some out, so what would peoples thoughts be if this is indeed the 9 to ship out?'"
Would keep them 3 in bold and get rid of rest imo
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Was what I was told last night.
On that basis, we will be paying some off or helping them find new clubs
Motu
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G Horne
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King
Thorman
Lee
Maloney
Hall
Moa
Realistically would that be a bad thing?
I always liked G Horne, but I think he is not up to making a position his own
Sam Moa would keep, visa dependent though?
Maloney, Hall and Lee. Disappointed to lose youngsters but its clear we have to ship some out, so what would peoples thoughts be if this is indeed the 9 to ship out?'"
I agree with most of that list but would keep Moa and Maloney as they won't be costing much and have shown they have potential.
I'd also keep Tommy Lee as I think he's really upped his game this season, I was a big critic previously.
think Hall is overrated and hasn't improved since he made his debut, not bothered if he stays or goes.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Senior makes me laugh. Gets away with murder in term of loads of sly, niggly little infringements that go unnoticed (bit like McMenemy used to do) - exactly the sort of player you want in your team and hate to play against. A couple of years ago we were linked with him and people said he was too old - he looks OK to me.
Thinking about it, centre is another position we have scrimped on over the last few years (albeit not to the same extent as SH) - Sid Domic was OK, but really since Barnett we've not had real class there.'"
I'd love to see a player of Richie Barnett's calibre back in our centres. Someone who can create a bit of magic on thier own.
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| for me i would send lee out on loan or if ooc then get rid, he's picked his game up but still down the pecking order for nine behind berro n houghton, if houghton goes out on loan it will do him no harm as look how scott moore has come on.
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