obst,gleeson,fitz back for hudds, maybe long aswel,if not will be kr game.plus no injuries from today,happy days.

Except for a busted nose.

Did Turner ground the ball correctly, when he went over? We where at the other end of the stand, but it looked ok to us.
Deffo think their player was short and bounced it and that was right in front of us.

Looked like he lost control of the ball to me,but i was at the opposite end too.

right in front of where we was sat, definate grounding of the ball, even the stewards shook their heads laughing when it wasn't given, poor decision by a ref who had a poor game imo

Someone else claimed he was short,but i didn't think he was??

nowhere near short

Definately wasn't short, we could see that from the other end. It was whether he had lost control. Still looked more of a try than Tyrer's effort tho

Right in front of us.. gobsmacked that it got disallowed

definitely a try, shocking decision by the ref, he even missed the blatant forward pass to Penny from the resulting 20 metre tap

and a blatant trip by sculthorpe on whiting too

The Turner one was definitely grounded, even their players looked shocked when he didn't give it. Still, we had the Briscoe interception try in the next set so it didn't matter in the end.

Come on lads talking about the ref...if we were on tv today there wouldve been 6 points in it...ref was awful!!! Gave hull far too much. At the end of the day u were always gonna win but well proud of widnes. Few silly errors and ref decisions cost us today

The ball was grounded because we were sat pitch side we couldn't have been closer was bemused why it was disallowed.

You reckon the ref was worth a 20-point swing?

On the Turner "try" none of us could believe it was disallowed. Almost in front of us, ball grounded over the line. not sure how or why it was not given.

I was sat in front of that too and when it was disallowed I said it looked like Turner had dropped it.
Just shows how people will interprate the same situation differently.
The ref had a split second to make a call, think he did ok today to be honest.

Didn't think the ref was great all day tbh, seemed to have forgotten the markers square and flop rules and was hammering the interference law.

Same here, i thought straightaway he dropped it, thought then it was the right decision, having a video ref to slow the play down is great, but in real time the ref has to make the decision, and i thought (probably wrong) he got it right!

Definite try, had no problems with that one

Their try in the 1st half was short and appeared to bounce. To be fair though, if our attitude had been better we wouldnt be discussing the ref, should be looking at some of our players first.

It was the old Hull today wasn't it - take out the new signings of Obst and Gleeson, then minus the leadership of Fitz and we looked similar to the last time we played there 3 years ago.

So what you're saying is that if you take away all our leaders and organisers we look exactly like we did the last time we had no leaders or organisers?

No too much of a shock, surely?

Mr Hicks was really bad and missed many forward passes. I was sitting in the South Stand and could see how forward they were quite clearly while Hick was not up with play. I am not being biased, either.

Mr Hicks and Mr Childs should be relegated to reserve Rugby, as they are both not up to the standard of some other referees.

Having said that, It was a very good game to watch and we saw some good Rugby. I look forward to meeting you again next year.

Havnt read all 10 pages but just wondered what people thoughts are on Tickle playing loose man? To me it seemed the perfect game to play Westerman at 13 and see how he goes. Thought Tickle looked abit lost around the middle compared to Fitz, and Westerman, or even Washbrook would have probably done a better job.

Also letting Sculthorpe get away with a obvious trip was shocking aswell