On what grounds ?

Sentence to harsh ?

Get this locked it's only going to get locked after a few more posts.

He don't play for us anymore.

This has already been locked on other boards already.

Dull Faily Mail has suspended comments on its site due to legal reasons.

Move on he's nothing to do with us.

If he and his lagal team feel it be then, yes.

They froze his assets as well ...............


Over £70 K

How many years do hard working postmen/women have to work to even earn that

Sorry I do not understand the question







In Delivery 5 - 6 years, Processing 4 -5

Distribution less then 6 months









They will have to prove it was from his illegal operations before they can take it

Professional driver...2/3 weeks

ouchh.................

or semi retired transport gadgers

From the left wing to C wing in less than 24 hours. Must be a record.

Kosh, I think you have misunderstood me.

I think that a 15 month custodial sentence is inappropriate, or harsh even, not the fact he has been sentence in the first place.

Also, my response was directed at the phrase, "Deserves everything he gets", not at this particular case. I find it a very strange thing for somebody to say, as it seems to imply that he deserves "any" punishment, which he clearly doesn't. It's just one of those loose phrases that people use without thinking, hence why I think it belongs in the rag that is the Daily Mail.

Exactly. Surely there must be a mechanism to allow the sentence to be reduced.

I thought about the phase I used..you are of the opinion he does not deserve 15 months, I disagree, he is a violent racist thug who was given a suspended sentence, this clearly did not refrain him for carry out further criminal activities by ripping innocent people off, for his own greed...He has no respect for the law and clearly thought he was above it,so he deserves all he gets.

Didnt he get tagged whilst at leicester?

Or just inject the paedos with dodgy ink

Told you all in Sept 09 he was heading for the big house

Your chufty badge is in the post.

Thank you.

Can we have Frank Ribry in charge of the kids club?

Didn't he get 9 months for the fraud, and then 6 months consecutive on the activation of his suspended sentence?

personally think the sentence is harsh, theres a lot worse than Raynor who havent recieved as harsh a sentence!

He got 9 months for this offence, which is presumably the length specified. The other 6 months are from his previous suspended sentence. The two together may seem unduly long, but bear in mind he is effectively serving time for two quite serious offences at the same time. And that is, after all, what suspended sentences are for.

Do you think i could get my £20 back if they deem his assets are purchased through this!!



It may be fake but it lasts ages!

yer but all them who know the law said the suspended wouldnt be taken in to account

Sentence for The Scam and the pevious offence - It does not seem exsessive to me the Man is a fool and should not be defended. I am surprised at you Ian.

Not all Karl not all. Somewhere on this forum I told you all why he would be sent down.

Equally for some of you who feel he can appeal his sentence. Whilst that may be the case it will be difficult as he pleaded guilty.
If you look at this as an individual case then you can argue its a harsh sentence. What you will find though is that for this level of fraud and the sums involved its about par for the course. some of you are forgetting the level of planning this kind of offence takes. Its not just a quick punch which happened after a drunken night out. half a second of madness which destroys the victim's life and his family and also the defendant. I will add here that I am NOT saying that a drunken punch is a lesser crime for one moment, so do not attempt to twist what I say. Violence is violence and should be punished in an appropriate way. Which in the Blackpool case the judge thought was through a suspended sentence and a warning shot, probably on the back of HFC supporting him.
This current offence took a great deal of planning and preparation. Maybe not the most suffisticated or sexy offence but non the less its a well planned out offence over a length of time.
Get it out of your heads that its victimless and causes no offence or harm to anyone. It does. Maybe not the majority of victims but non the less its causes harm.
Raynor has had more than enough chances in life and now at long last a judge has seen fit to give him time to reflect on what he has been doing all his adult life. If he doesn't reflect then I am certain it will not be his last time in the big house.
The man is a fool who has thrown everything away because he is unable to use the brain god gave him. He will have time to reflect now and when he re-enters society he will be jobless and probably once trading standards have finished with him pennyless. I just hope for his sake that he learns his lesson.

And with that I think we'll end it. Everyone's had a chance to have their say, he doesn't play for us any more, and the risk of libel is always there.