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| Quote ="downtheante"Genuinely, the reason I very rarely post here any more is because of the continued negativity that infests almost every thread. It rarely matters what the thread is about or who started it but it always ends up being a slagging for someone, Richard Agar being the main target.
We know people don't rate Agar - but it has become tedious beyond belief how many times the same small number of people slag him off - his team selection, his rotations, his selection of people in whichever position, his ability etc. We know how these few people feel (hell it's even on a lot of their "avatars"icon_wink.gif but ffs can't we talk about something else? For example, after years of being light at 6 and 7 we have some potential depth there for next year and he and/or the board is now getting a slagging for not sorting the pack out.
If it's not Agar then it's the "public schoolboy" who isn't a fan (although my son and many of his friends at Hymers - where I think this particular victim of abuse attended - have season passes and have for may years) and Kaff who we're continually being told is ugly which is (a) rude, (b) in the eye of the beholder and (c) completely irrelevant to how she runs a club. To me, if we want debate then we need to stop everything being derailed into personal abuse of the coach, the board and any poster who try to start a topic about something or express an opinion about something that leans to the slightly positive.
Also, much of the good humour has disappeared from here. People on different sides of debates used to have a laugh =#0000FFwith each other even when they disgreed -now it's just laughing =#0000FFat each other.
I might be exagerating slightly but the thrust of what I'm saying seems to be true - to me at least.'"
I defend everyones right as a fan to complain, but it is tedious and for me that is post of the month Well done!
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| Quote ="downtheante"Genuinely, the reason I very rarely post here any more is because of the continued negativity that infests almost every thread. It rarely matters what the thread is about or who started it but it always ends up being a slagging for someone, Richard Agar being the main target.
We know people don't rate Agar - but it has become tedious beyond belief how many times the same small number of people slag him off - his team selection, his rotations, his selection of people in whichever position, his ability etc. We know how these few people feel (hell it's even on a lot of their "avatars"icon_wink.gif but ffs can't we talk about something else? For example, after years of being light at 6 and 7 we have some potential depth there for next year and he and/or the board is now getting a slagging for not sorting the pack out.
If it's not Agar then it's the "public schoolboy" who isn't a fan (although my son and many of his friends at Hymers - where I think this particular victim of abuse attended - have season passes and have for may years) and Kaff who we're continually being told is ugly which is (a) rude, (b) in the eye of the beholder and (c) completely irrelevant to how she runs a club. To me, if we want debate then we need to stop everything being derailed into personal abuse of the coach, the board and any poster who try to start a topic about something or express an opinion about something that leans to the slightly positive.
Also, much of the good humour has disappeared from here. People on different sides of debates used to have a laugh =#0000FFwith each other even when they disgreed -now it's just laughing =#0000FFat each other.
I might be exagerating slightly but the thrust of what I'm saying seems to be true - to me at least.'"
can't disagree with any of that btw
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| Quote ="The Southstand Madman!"eusa_clap.gif
Someone finally speaking sense i for one now generally come on and read comments but don't post for the fear of [uSOME[/u of the Mods shooting me down!'"
I've just scanned through your posting history and the only example of a Mod stepping in that I could see was your post about Gleeson the other day - which was libel and broke the AUP. Otherwise you seemed to be getting on just fine.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I've just scanned through your posting history and the only example of a Mod stepping in that I could see was your post about Gleeson the other day - which was libel and broke the AUP. Otherwise you seemed to be getting on just fine.'"
Stop shooting hm down Kosh! We can't afford to lose him from the board.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Stop shooting hm down Kosh! We can't afford to lose him from the board.'"
let he who is without sin, and all that eh.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Stop shooting hm down Kosh! We can't afford to lose him from the board.'"
I know Standee thinks that I don't GAF, but I actually take complaints like that seriously enough to at least investigate.
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| CBA to read all the bickering but it sounds like Smales had been talking to Agar today and the Seymour deal isn't quite done yet, Long not decided but Phelps and Washbrook fit for Wakey.
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| Quote ="downtheante"Genuinely, the reason I very rarely post here any more is because of the continued negativity that infests almost every thread. It rarely matters what the thread is about or who started it but it always ends up being a slagging for someone, Richard Agar being the main target.
We know people don't rate Agar - but it has become tedious beyond belief how many times the same small number of people slag him off - his team selection, his rotations, his selection of people in whichever position, his ability etc. We know how these few people feel (hell it's even on a lot of their "avatars"icon_wink.gif but ffs can't we talk about something else? For example, after years of being light at 6 and 7 we have some potential depth there for next year and he and/or the board is now getting a slagging for not sorting the pack out.
If it's not Agar then it's the "public schoolboy" who isn't a fan (although my son and many of his friends at Hymers - where I think this particular victim of abuse attended - have season passes and have for may years) and Kaff who we're continually being told is ugly which is (a) rude, (b) in the eye of the beholder and (c) completely irrelevant to how she runs a club. To me, if we want debate then we need to stop everything being derailed into personal abuse of the coach, the board and any poster who try to start a topic about something or express an opinion about something that leans to the slightly positive.
Also, much of the good humour has disappeared from here. People on different sides of debates used to have a laugh =#0000FFwith each other even when they disgreed -now it's just laughing =#0000FFat each other.
I might be exagerating slightly but the thrust of what I'm saying seems to be true - to me at least.'"
A great post, with a whole lot of valid and sensible points. I would, however, say that on the other side there is also just as much problem with people being attacked for their negative comments or their motivations for making them, and also a certain amount of ridicule. Some posters try to be open-minded but are portrayed as getting a kick out Hull doing badly when they express concerns. There are those who always see the bad, granted, but the lines are being blurred and many being thrown in with that crowd unfairly.
This board is quieter purely because people are getting past caring and finding better ways to spend their time. That's almost certain to remain the case until a big change happens at the club, many fans are just too disenchanted to be easily won back now.
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| Quote ="steve_norton"CBA to read all the bickering but it sounds like Smales had been talking to Agar today and the Seymour deal isn't quite done yet, Long not decided but Phelps and Washbrook fit for Wakey.'"
That explains why the club haven't confirmed anything. I guess Seymour is happy with the deal but there are some i's and t's to be dotted and crossed?
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| Quote ="Kosh"That explains why the club haven't confirmed anything. I guess Seymour is happy with the deal but there are some i's and t's to be dotted and crossed?'"
hopefully due diligence on his visa position, or something similar
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| Quote ="downtheante"Genuinely, the reason I very rarely post here any more is because of the continued negativity that infests almost every thread. It rarely matters what the thread is about or who started it but it always ends up being a slagging for someone, Richard Agar being the main target.
We know people don't rate Agar - but it has become tedious beyond belief how many times the same small number of people slag him off - his team selection, his rotations, his selection of people in whichever position, his ability etc. We know how these few people feel (hell it's even on a lot of their "avatars"icon_wink.gif but ffs can't we talk about something else? For example, after years of being light at 6 and 7 we have some potential depth there for next year and he and/or the board is now getting a slagging for not sorting the pack out.
If it's not Agar then it's the "public schoolboy" who isn't a fan (although my son and many of his friends at Hymers - where I think this particular victim of abuse attended - have season passes and have for may years) and Kaff who we're continually being told is ugly which is (a) rude, (b) in the eye of the beholder and (c) completely irrelevant to how she runs a club. To me, if we want debate then we need to stop everything being derailed into personal abuse of the coach, the board and any poster who try to start a topic about something or express an opinion about something that leans to the slightly positive.
Also, much of the good humour has disappeared from here. People on different sides of debates used to have a laugh =#0000FFwith each other even when they disgreed -now it's just laughing =#0000FFat each other.
I might be exagerating slightly but the thrust of what I'm saying seems to be true - to me at least.'"
Great post and a clear observation.
I do enjoy this forum and I will continue to do so. I can choose as an adult to ignore comments or certain posters or I can challenge and debate with them. The Mods are just doing an unpaid job on behalf of the site to police whats posted. As I see it everyone is entitled to an opinion, we live with freedom of speech in our land. If we debate all well and good, if we are abusive or libelous then expect your back doors to be smashed in by a Mod.
I think at 1700 hours today we should all embrace on RLFORUMS and do an John and Yoko bed sitting type, Love, peace and flower power.
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| Quote ="Standee"hopefully due diligence on his visa position, or something similar'"
Good call.
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| Quote ="Standee"hopefully due diligence on his visa position, or something similar'"
Hope so. Don't know a great deal about his background, but the club appear to have their eye on the ball on this after Croc**r.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I've just scanned through your posting history and the only example of a Mod stepping in that I could see was your post about Gleeson the other day - which was libel and [ubroke the AUP[/u. Otherwise you seemed to be getting on just fine.'"
Which is the key to all of it. If people read and digested it, we'd all get along fine.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Hope so. Don't know a great deal about his background, but the club appear to have their eye on the ball on this after Croc**r.'"
How far in advance do they apply for the visa?
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| Quote ="Chris28"Hope so. Don't know a great deal about his background, but the club appear to have their eye on the ball on this after Croc**r.'"
I think the RFL and UKBA have done a fair bit of work between them, especially after the various embarassing c0ck ups that have occurred, FC are probably just covering their backsides before comitting to anything.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"How far in advance do they apply for the visa?'"
I presume once player and club have agreed terms they would apply straight away. Especially after recent years and players having visa problems. I would also expect a clause in any contract stating that if a visa is not granted then the contract is null and void.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Hope so. Don't know a great deal about his background, but the club appear to have their eye on the ball on this after Croc**r.'"
Didn't I read a few months back that the RFL have finally fallen into line with other sports like Ice Hockey and Speedway and are working directly with immigration on visa approval and expedited processing.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"How far in advance do they apply for the visa?'"
If they want him over before Christmas, no need to do anything till September/October tbh.
I reckon, as Standee says, they'll just be checking things out now to make sure there's no surprises when the application goes in.
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| Quote ="Standee"I think the RFL and UKBA have done a fair bit of work between them, especially after the various embarassing c0ck ups that have occurred, FC are probably just covering their backsides before comitting to anything.'"
There was a recent agreement between the RFL and UKBA that was supposed to bridge the gap in speed of Visa processing between RL and most other sports. I think part of that was some clarified guidelines for the clubs.
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| Quote ="steve_norton"Didn't I read a few months back that the RFL have finally fallen into line with other sports like Ice Hockey and Speedway and are working directly with immigration on visa approval and expedited processing.'"
Yes, I think you did. Still won't mean the visa gets approved though. You'll just get the refusal quicker!
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| Quote ="steve_norton"Didn't I read a few months back that the RFL have finally fallen into line with other sports like Ice Hockey and Speedway and are working directly with immigration on visa approval and expedited processing.'"
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=22012You did, April this year[/url
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| Quote ="downtheante"Genuinely, the reason I very rarely post here any more is because of the continued negativity that infests almost every thread. It rarely matters what the thread is about or who started it but it always ends up being a slagging for someone, Richard Agar being the main target.
We know people don't rate Agar - but it has become tedious beyond belief how many times the same small number of people slag him off - his team selection, his rotations, his selection of people in whichever position, his ability etc. We know how these few people feel (hell it's even on a lot of their "avatars"icon_wink.gif but ffs can't we talk about something else? For example, after years of being light at 6 and 7 we have some potential depth there for next year and he and/or the board is now getting a slagging for not sorting the pack out.
If it's not Agar then it's the "public schoolboy" who isn't a fan (although my son and many of his friends at Hymers - where I think this particular victim of abuse attended - have season passes and have for may years) and Kaff who we're continually being told is ugly which is (a) rude, (b) in the eye of the beholder and (c) completely irrelevant to how she runs a club. To me, if we want debate then we need to stop everything being derailed into personal abuse of the coach, the board and any poster who try to start a topic about something or express an opinion about something that leans to the slightly positive.
Also, much of the good humour has disappeared from here. People on different sides of debates used to have a laugh =#0000FFwith each other even when they disgreed -now it's just laughing =#0000FFat each other.
I might be exagerating slightly but the thrust of what I'm saying seems to be true - to me at least.'"
Excellent post and imo this is more of a reason fans [imight[/i be staying away rather than anything to do with the was the moderators run it.
That said as moderators we have to accept that it has gone this way as many fans feel so fed up with certain things at the club namely Agar. We can't ask posters to be positive or negative we just have to moderate what people discuss. We do try to keep thread subjects together though so we don't have too many threads discussing the same thing.
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