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| Sshould have asked Washbrook last night,saw him twice at Humber sesh.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"If a bid came in for Westerman then I'd take it in a flash and give Adbul the 13 shirt unless we are doing it the Aussie way and having a 2 nd rower at 13.'"
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Sshould have asked Washbrook last night,saw him twice at Humber sesh.'"
Asked him and he said "not decided yet"
Looked cheeky, reckon he has myself
HTW under contract for next year too which is good news
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| Regarding another back rower, I'd love someone like Hansen. But out of Hansen, Mini and Pritchard who'd start on the bench? Because there all too good not to start. Another issue id have is we'd likely have too much of the salary been used just in the back row. Rather sign another top centre with good hands or a prop and a young hooker.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Regarding another back rower, I'd love someone like Hansen. But out of Hansen, Mini and Pritchard who'd start on the bench? Because there all too good not to start. Another issue id have is we'd likely have too much of the salary been used just in the back row. Rather sign another top centre with good hands or a prop and a young hooker.'"
Pritchard would come off the bench for me. Soften up defences then bring him on. Dogs did that a lot in recent yrs. Been starting this tho.
all the decent teams have 3frontline backrows. A lot of the time their backrow units have as many tries than the centres
we have had 2great back rowers this yr. But when 1s gone the whole it leaves is massive. The step down is massive even whiting. Big hopes for the young uns but a while off yet.
Never seen a hull team miss a player the way we do Ellis
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| Quote ="*1865*"Abdull is nowhere near ready to play 13 consistently.'"
Neither is Westerman. Wonder which one offers value for money?
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| Quote ="Raggytash"Neither is Westerman. Wonder which one offers value for money?'"
I reckon the England international does.
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| westerman is a strange one, imo he does a lot of work for the team but never seems to stand out, would be sorry to see him go but not suprised
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| The issue as far as I can see with Westerman is that we paid a fee for him. I suspect if he had come to us in the usual way simply signing after contract ended at Cas then we wouldn't be expecting so much from him.
I'm not sure what we expect from him. Last season Radford seemed to allow him to play a more open role. This year with Pryce and Sneyd at the helm it appears to me that he has had to revert back to being a third prop at times. Thus redering him ineffective. Or at least not as effective as his skill set allows.
Add in an absolute mare in our biggest game of the season and I can see why some might be glad to see him go.
As for Abdul hes old enough hes big enough I'd expect him in the 17 most weeks next season. He needs a massive off season losing some of his muffin top, but he will either be rotting in the frankinstein team or at a DR club. Get him in the first team and developing off Mini and co.
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| Don't blame Naughton for not signing as he will just get used and deserves a FT spot in the team. He won't get that with LR and I think he knows that. Can't see him much longer at the club. He's just been wasted
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| I'm not sure naughton will ever make it as a winger. Too small. Reckon FB could be his best position
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| Quote ="Airlie15"Don't blame Naughton for not signing as he will just get used and deserves a FT spot in the team. He won't get that with LR and I think he knows that. Can't see him much longer at the club. He's just been wasted'"
Most teams only play one full back at once. Do you think Radford is wrong?
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| Quote ="*1865*"I reckon the England international does.'"
Faultless logic. I hope we manage to tie down England and Great Britain international Kirk Yeaman to a long contract!
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| Quote ="Raggytash"Faultless logic. I hope we manage to tie down England and Great Britain international Kirk Yeaman to a long contract!'"
Well it appears we've been doing that for years.
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| Now can you really see LR not giving him another year at the club unless he decides to retire!
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| Quote ="Airlie15"Now can you really see LR not giving him another year at the club unless he decides to retire!'"
Old boys' reunion with washy
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| Quote ="Airlie15"Now can you really see LR not giving him another year at the club unless he decides to retire!'"
You are incredible.
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| think washy can do a decent job for us, has been one of wakeys top players this year which ok doesn't say a lot,but every team needs players like this,imo I think Hadley and turgut don't cut it at sl level just not big enough,still think westerman rumours could be true and hes off, if so and I hope not would like to see abdull given a run at LF
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| mmmmmm,mind you I reckon this time of the year half the players are getting injections of some kind
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| Quote ="Raggytash"Faultless logic. I hope we manage to tie down England and Great Britain international Kirk Yeaman to a long contract!'"
Sorry, I meant CURRENT England international.
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Ellis was basically doing the same earlier in the year.
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| yeaman staying and going to be pushing for a back row spot
ellis?
pritchard
mini
westerman
washbrook?
whiting
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7 players vying for 3 spots is ridiculous when all are specialist back rowers and not really an option to play elsewhere
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"yeaman staying and going to be pushing for a back row spot
ellis?
pritchard
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whiting
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7 players vying for 3 spots is ridiculous when all are specialist back rowers and not really an option to play elsewhere'"
Washy will be interchange hooker
(Provided Ellis is fit) you've got Ellis , mini , Pritchard , westy , Abdul and one more for a bench spot . Ellis and Mini have had to play too many minutes in games this season which imo has hampered there impact to full capacity and the same could be said about westy although in lesser effect than Ellis n Mini . !!! I think we will have 4 second rowers and 2 loose forwards in the 17 especially with the minutes Taylor can play !!! So and its only my opinion
I think we've 5 players vying for spots out of 7 and all very good players
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| defo think LR will try to spell both ellis if fit and mini next year,yeaman going to second row could go either way, hes bigger than both Hadley or turgut so I will hold my judgement till I see how he goes
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