I don’t think it can be a fitness thing. The kid looks shredded he has really leaned off. It’s just his ruck control in defence.

I went for a walk yesterday, through the Walton street entrance, round the stadium, then over the unlocked walkway, I noticed to the left of the stadium, the astroturfing caged courtyard, looked a right mess, it looked like it’s just been left with no maintenance, don’t really know if this area is part of the Stadium control, or others responsibility, but it seems to fall in with the rest of the malaise at present, no money, no paint I suppose.

To the game this afternoon, Saturdays don’t sit well with me to be honest, I prefer a Friday night or a Sunday, just me I suppose, with all the goodwill and hope in the world, I would love a win today, against a team, assembled with pots of money, hope I’m wrong but can see Swifty and Jake relishing the chance to send us further, the slightest pressure we fold like balserwood cut outs, fearing the worst, hoping the best.

It's going to be a nightmare this afternoon for full backs.

Good job it's a kids a quid.

Reckon it would have been a record low crowd.

Game over lol.

Another cracking start and behind again well before 5 mins have even gone. We are just beyond .

My decision not to go so far looks the right choice unfortunately

Judging by the crowd I think many have chosen to give it a miss today.

Nice try from Sutcliffe let’s hope we might have finally woken up.

No coincidence we look better when our ptb is much quicker and sharper.

I don't want to over-build, but Charles is a natural.

Was making good metres and defending well until then….anyone want to slag off the young kid for that or blame TS for the mistake.

18-4 after 21 mins. Another 50 pointer incoming.

Sod it….thats enough for me

They are an embarrassment.

This is the worst defensive Hull team I have ever seen in my 30 years of watching.

This is embarrassing.
Soft penalties yet again and an even worse defence.
This team are not playing for Smith at all.
Surely Smith can't survive this.

Swift for Tindall has to be one of the biggest downgrades in super League history

It’s not the young players that are at fault though but you can certainly blame TS as we are simply atrocious under his tenure as head coach and atrocious is being polite.
The blame lies firmly at the feet of the experienced head coach.

There is nothing evident that we are going to turn a corner or look remotely like we are anywhere near doing anything of the sort under Smith and his henchman.

Goal line defence is none existent!

It's the same script every week

1.Team concedes 50 points

2.Player comes out in the week in HDM (this week was Ese Eses turn) saying theyve been training really well and focusing on defence all week.

3. Team concedes a lot of tries again

Laziest group of players I've ever seen. Not one prepared to graft.

Disgraceful effort in defence. Same old story every single week. On that last try we weren't even stretched, and yet we somehow get in a situation where the smallest player on the field is having to make a one on one tackle against a second rower. Just awful.

you forgot to add the most ill discipined and dunb team we have ever had
All down to tinkering Tony
This surely has to be his last game in charge

Pathetic from Sao. I bet he wouldnt have missed if Yates had his back turned and didn't have the ball.

Good effort from Hoy. Feel sorry for him sometimes.

Aaand right on cue there's the 38th minute sin bin