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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Heres a new one - Mini and a few other FC players invested heavily in GOLDTHORPE PROPERTIES which was all just a big scam and have all lost their money so the club have 'done the right thing' and given them extended contracts to offset the losses theyve made on the official club sponsor - thats another reason were in a right mess'"
I was told this last week from a reliable source
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| Just read that cuthbertson would be allowed to leave Leeds if the offer was right.
If we can clear done space, would be be worth bringing in?
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| Quote ="Offy"Just read that cuthbertson would be allowed to leave Leeds if the offer was right.
If we can clear done space, would be be worth bringing in?'"
Yes. He's not looking like the player he was during his first year at Leeds, but a change of scenery and new set of fans to impress might make him recapture that form. He's a big, experienced guy with an offload. Even with his dip in form he'd still add more to this team than a lot of our forwards.
Cant see it happening anyway but I would like it.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Heres a new one - Mini and a few other FC players invested heavily in GOLDTHORPE PROPERTIES which was all just a big scam and have all lost their money so the club have 'done the right thing' and given them extended contracts to offset the losses theyve made on the official club sponsor - thats another reason were in a right mess'"
Heard pretty much the same Seb from a guy who was a sub contractor to Goldthorpe.
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| I'm sorry to hear some players invested heavily and lost, so the clubs recruitment is in a mess due to players taking a personal risk and investing their money? Club sponsor or not unless the club advised them to do it then its done at their own personal risk. Whilst its admirable the club have done this, its done it no favours on or off the field and finishing in the bottom 4 is actually a reality and shows sentiment doesn't bring success.
It may sound harsh but if I make an investment in to one of our customers I don't expect my employer to help with my losses should the risk not work out.
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| Quote ="Chris71"I'm sorry to hear some players invested heavily and lost, so the clubs recruitment is in a mess due to players taking a personal risk and investing their money? Club sponsor or not unless the club advised them to do it then its done at their own personal risk. Whilst its admirable the club have done this, its done it no favours on or off the field and finishing in the bottom 4 is actually a reality and shows sentiment doesn't bring success.
It may sound harsh but if I make an investment in to one of our customers I don't expect my employer to help with my losses should the risk not work out.'"
If true it explains the retention of players we all thought should have been replaced and Radford’s not accountable for these decisions.
On the Taylor suspension, I was under the impression Carlos was the culprit having pulled and turned McShane’s leg. The incident was put on report. Any ideas what the second charge was for?
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| Quote ="Armavinit"On the Taylor suspension, I was under the impression Carlos was the culprit having pulled and turned McShane’s leg. The incident was put on report. Any ideas what the second charge was for?'"
Agreed as that’s the only incident I could see and as you say that was Carlos pulling Mcshanes leg the only other one was when Mitch Clark was tackled and went down after playing the ball but didn’t seem anything in that either.
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| Said about Minichiello and his lost investment months ago when his contract was announced. With regards to Taylor's ban, the one in Clark is an absolute joke
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| Quote ="Chris71"Agreed as that’s the only incident I could see and as you say that was Carlos pulling Mcshanes leg the only other one was when Mitch Clark was tackled and went down after playing the ball but didn’t seem anything in that either.'"
Is there a case for the club to appeal, surely they have access to footage.
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| Taylor:
Quote 1 Match Penalty Notice
Rule – 15.1(i) Detail – Defender uses any part of his body forcefully to twist, bend or otherwise apply pressure to the limb or limbs of an opposing player in a way that involves an unacceptable risk of injury to that player. Grade – B
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Charge
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Dangerous Contact in the 53rd minute (Clark) '"
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Details of Charge / Reason for NF :
Rule - 15.1(i) Detail – Defender uses any part of his body forcefully to twist, bend or otherwise apply pressure to the limb or limbs of an opposing player in a way that involves an unacceptable risk of injury to that player. Grade – C
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Charge
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Dangerous Contact in the 61st minute (McShane) '"
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| The RFL don't even know who plays for which team....
Quote Paul McShane - Hull FC
Hull FC v Castleford - Super League
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Player pushes opponent in the face as a result of opponent pushing player in the face at the play the ball. Onfield penalty sufficient.
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| Quote ="ccs"The RFL don't even know who plays for which team....
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Sooooo, who pushed who in who’s face first and who retaiated by pushing who in who’s face retaliation is the worst offence.
In relation to Taylor on McShane, it was clearly Carlos, so do the club accuse him to reprieve Taylor???
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| Quote ="boardwalkempire"Austin puts Tomkins in hospital and there’s no charge. Connor gets 1 match ban for back chat
Brough gets nothing'"
Austin decision includes the phrase "Footage inconclusive".
Another reason why televised games are a lottery.
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| My sympathys over the taylor 3 match ban,if that was one of the blue eyed boys o'loughlin for example it would have been no charge.The rfl are diabolically biased.
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| Hull surely need to appeal. I was at the game, and have watched the incidents back a few times. Nothing in them. I’d be severely brassed off if it was a Cas player with a ban for those. The McShane one nothing there at all, the Clarke one just one of those unfortunate things that can happen in a tackle.
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| Quote ="caslad75"Hull surely need to appeal. I was at the game, and have watched the incidents back a few times. Nothing in them. I’d be severely brassed off if it was a Cas player with a ban for those. The McShane one nothing there at all, the Clarke one just one of those unfortunate things that can happen in a tackle.'"
Whilst we all agree with you there is not a chance an appeal would get the player off.
Can you imagine if on appeal the charges were dropped how that would reflect on the original panel and the conflict then in the RFL.
We know they are biased and in this case not fit for purpose but the best we could get if the club do appeal is a reduction of one match.
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| You’d hope the rfl becomes obsolete and the super league chairman can take control then all this might finally get sorted once and for all, or have I got it massively wrong
If I have, then what’s the solution to this incompetence
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| We lose out because there will be multiple camera angles for the panel to look at in taylor's cases but only 1 angle for most other players
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| Quote ="bonaire"Whilst we all agree with you there is not a chance an appeal would get the player off.
Can you imagine if on appeal the charges were dropped how that would reflect on the original panel and the conflict then in the RFL.
We know they are biased and in this case not fit for purpose but the best we could get if the club do appeal is a reduction of one match.'"
Works for Wigan and O'Loughlin
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| It's a strange system, you are found guilty with no option to defend yourself, and are then threatened with an increased penalty if you have the audacity to appeal the decision.
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| Quote ="ccs"...you are found guilty with no option to defend yourself...'"
I don't understand. Hull didn't contest the charges and therefore have no right of appeal.
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Quote ="dboy"I don't understand. Hull didn't contest the charges and therefore have no right of appeal.'" Taylor was found guilty and given a 1+2 match ban.
The club/player were then informed of the outcome.
The club then had the option to contest the decision.
In a normal court of law, you defend yourself before a verdict is given.
https://www.rugby-league.com/the_rfl/di ... sciplinary
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Quote ="dboy"I don't understand. Hull didn't contest the charges and therefore have no right of appeal.'" Taylor was found guilty and given a 1+2 match ban.
The club/player were then informed of the outcome.
The club then had the option to contest the decision.
In a normal court of law, you defend yourself before a verdict is given.
https://www.rugby-league.com/the_rfl/di ... sciplinary
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| That's not how it works.
1 The charge and the scope of the penalty is announced.
2 The club notifies the RFL if they are contesting the charge and the hearings are held on Tuesdays (for SL).
3 If the guilty, the club can appeal (which is where a penalty can go up as well as down).
Hull FC did not contest the charges, so the penalty notice stands unopposed.
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| From the RFL's Twitter - "There are no disciplinary cases to be heard tonight. The players issued with penalty notices yesterday (Super League) and last Thursday (Championship) have accepted the imposed penalty notices."
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| Quote ="dboy"From the RFL's Twitter - "There are no disciplinary cases to be heard tonight. The players issued with penalty notices yesterday (Super League) and last Thursday (Championship) have accepted the imposed penalty notices."'"
So they were found guilty and chose not to dispute it, but they were never in a position to defend themselves before the verdict.
Have a look at the link I posted.
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