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| He's on again right now!
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| Quote ="Pal of Mine"He's on again right now!'"
The more I hear him, the more he is proving he's a complete fruit loop. Talk about a patronising, insulting twot.
He didnt even remember who he'd spoken to or know what length and terms the leases where to Hull FC or Hull City for someone who is the sharp businessman you think he'd make a point of knowing this.
Proof enough to stay clear.
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| Quote ="major black"wonder if east riding will fall for his little scam. I'm sure it was him that sent me a letter saying I'd won the spanish lottery.'"
SCAM!!!
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| I don't trust ether party, Hull city Council or Mr Allam, both sound as bad as one and the other.
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| I WILL NEVER SIT WITH COUNCILLORS FROM HULL!
Still looking at Melton or East Riding.
Personally I don't want the KC going into private hands, it's too much of a risk - history does repeat itself.
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| Quote ="Pal of Mine"He's on again right now!'"
He's having as many "final words on the subjuct" as my Mrs on a particularly bad day.
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| I would like to know how he gets out of the current KC deal
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| Quote ="Ian P"I would like to know how he gets out of the current KC deal'"
he can't , so he'd have to pay rent for the KC anyway!
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| Quote ="Standee"OK, I'll phrase it differently, were there 15,000 who couldn't get in who desparately wanted to?'"
Not that many, no. If they ever did get competitive in the midtable area of the PL, I do think they could add about 5-10k to their gates though. This should obviously be the aim, and possibly even achievable, but to start making plans for it as an eventuality at this time is as fantastic as most of the guff they've been coming out with.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Not that many, no. If they ever did get competitive in the midtable area of the PL, I do think they could add about 5-10k to their gates though. This should obviously be the aim, and possibly even achievable, but to start making plans for it as an eventuality at this time is as fantastic as most of the guff they've been coming out with.'"
this is the rub of it, Allam has already shown (quite clearly in their signings) that he can't really afford to make City a Premiership Club, not without borrowing, and he hasn't got the assets he is prepared to borrow against.
as you and I (and many others have said) a total non-starter for the foreseeable future.
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| My opinion is that allam dipped his toe in the water with city because he didn't realise the depth of their problems and he's now stuck with a bill he could never have imagined. It would have been far better for city to have gone into administration, taken the points deduction and walk away from a stack of debts and inflated contracts for players they didn't want.
He's now looking at some way of regaining a chunk of what he's laid out.
I doubt that allam himself has any ill feeling or intentions towards Hull FC, however I just don't see that our tenure in the KC is safe if it is in private hands. there is always the risk that we'll either be kicked out or have our rent increased significantly. allam won't own hull city forever and we only need some idiot like duffen to come in again and we'd be fooked.
The worry for me is that at some stage I do think that hull cc will relent and he'll get his way
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"My opinion is that allam dipped his toe in the water with city because he didn't realise the depth of their problems and he's now stuck with a bill he could never have imagined.'"
I think the same. When they were in negotiations and he said about the books being worse than he thought, I remember thinking at the time that he sounded like a man having second thoughts. I suspect it was only because of all his bluster about him being the man to be the club's saviour that almost forced him to go through with it, or else look a fool. Turns out he just delayed the latter happening.
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Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"All I would say to anyone who loves Hull Fc and reads this board is Listen Again on Radio Humberside's site to lasts night Sports Talk it is 23 minutes in there you will hear the Portfolio Holder for Culture and Leisure who says Hull FC "could have been out of the Stadium in 15 months"'"
www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/p00kftrn
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Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"All I would say to anyone who loves Hull Fc and reads this board is Listen Again on Radio Humberside's site to lasts night Sports Talk it is 23 minutes in there you will hear the Portfolio Holder for Culture and Leisure who says Hull FC "could have been out of the Stadium in 15 months"'"
www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/p00kftrn
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| Quote ="Hutchie"=#FF0000Tear up as in kick out, or tear up as in its not the right type of deal ?'"
Thats What I Say
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"My opinion is that allam dipped his toe in the water with city because he didn't realise the depth of their problems and he's now stuck with a bill he could never have imagined. It would have been far better for city to have gone into administration, taken the points deduction and walk away from a stack of debts and inflated contracts for players they didn't want.
He's now looking at some way of regaining a chunk of what he's laid out.
I doubt that allam himself has any ill feeling or intentions towards Hull FC, however I just don't see that our tenure in the KC is safe if it is in private hands. there is always the risk that we'll either be kicked out or have our rent increased significantly. allam won't own hull city forever and we only need some idiot like duffen to come in again and we'd be fooked.
The worry for me is that at some stage I do think that hull cc will relent and he'll get his way'"
Spot on good post.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"
The worry for me is that at some stage I do think that hull cc will relent and he'll get his way'"
No council will give away a capital asset like the KC, the auditors would never allow it. Even if they managed it, they'd best be prepared to sell everything they own and look forward to some serious jail time.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"No council will give away a capital asset like the KC, the auditors would never allow it. Even if they managed it, they'd best be prepared to sell everything they own and look forward to some serious jail time.'"
indeed, I really canot understand why people just don't seem able to comprehend the facts, Allam will not own the KC.
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| Quote ="Standee"[url=http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/HULL-CITY-Allams-field-dreams-lie-Melton/story-13425467-detail/story.htmlMore Allam guff[/url
42 years on the lease Mr Allam, so if you want to move out, you have to negotiate to leave.
40,000 capacity needed in 10-15 years time, why, it was rarely "sold out" during the Premiership years
you are a total nutjob, I feel sorry for Hull City fans.'"
totaly agree so hcc give him kc and nothing happens for 10 years or more he must think everyone in hull are thick
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42 years on the lease Mr Allam, so if you want to move out, you have to negotiate to leave.
40,000 capacity needed in 10-15 years time, why, it was rarely "sold out" during the Premiership years
you are a total nutjob, I feel sorry for Hull City fans.'"
totaly agree so hcc give him kc and nothing happens for 10 years or more he must think everyone in hull are thick
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| He actually said Hull have a contract to play at the KC for 40 years or so, he was unsure of the actual time scale. He said he could not, even if he wanted to, get out of the contract with Hull.
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| Quote ="Chris71"Well he did use the phrase 'simple minded' in his interview. The guy is a grade A loon as he moaned about the council being behind the times re they way they do things and should contact their head office in London then said the shops would be for the wifes and mothers to do thier shopping in
now who is behind the times???? Pot calling kettle.'"
makes you wonder if he's ever been down Anlaby Road and seen the "thriving" shopping environment.
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| If this guy want assets then he should use his own
He has a business that he could use to get the finance
The Councils Legal people will not give Him the KC Stadium
just to get money When the Bus Company was sold we were
told the Town Centre Garage would not be part of any deal (Some body knew
the Bus Station would be knock down ) People can have a go at the Council
but they would soon be on they back if thing when wrong and the people of Hull
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| Have I missed something? If he can't kick Hull out and we can't get out, then surely City would have the same sort of deal so therefore he can't take City to Melton?
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| Quote ="Pal of Mine"Have I missed something? If he can't kick Hull out and we can't get out, then surely City would have the same sort of deal so therefore he can't take City to Melton?'"
Can i let you in on a secret? He's not really going to build another stadium at Melton.
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| Quote ="Pal of Mine"Have I missed something? If he can't kick Hull out and we can't get out, then surely City would have the same sort of deal so therefore he =#000040can't take City to Melton?'"
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