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| Quote ="Karen xx"Wrong
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Dobson's decision to head East had nothing to do with money, this is what the club wanted to make us all believe as it was so easy to just turn it all on Dobson instead of looking at the real reasons.'"
We didn't have quota space.
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| Quote ="barham red"The east west bias will always be out in force regarding any of the players from over the divide but the question for me is obvious. If Dobson became available and quota or getting rid of your existing SH wasn't an issue how many teams would want him? I would bet a fair few would look to get him into the side. Long has been a great player but I doubt many would chose him over Dobson.
As for going missing in big games. The play off game against Leeds he was behind a beaten and makeshift pack and got injured in the first half of Wigan game and shouldn't have been on the pitch. The wire CC game was won by a golden point so Briers hardly wiped the floor with him.
In reality if you took your blinkers off and were offered him as a replacement for Long next year most of you would jump at it.'"
In reality I would be looking for someone better. Dobson is a decent player but not a world beater by any means. Never really been impressed with him with ball in hand. Great kicking game but thats about it IMO. If I was going to use a quota spot on a HB I'd be looking for better than Dobson.
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| Quote ="Karen xx"No because I was told by someone who I really don't want to break trusts with.
It's nothing bad, bad but let's just say money wasn't the issue but the way the club is portrayed in Australia by some ex players of ours.'"
We do a good enough job of putting prospective players off without ex players putting us in a bad light. They only have to look on here to come to the conclusion that it's not a good idea!
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| Ha Ha Matt Head??? any player that has a nickname of "ole windy" amongst players in Oz doesnt carry much weight in the opinion market !! and his nickname isnt because of his table manner either!!
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| Quote ="EXPRO"Ha Ha Matt Head??? any player that has a nickname of "ole windy" amongst players in Oz doesnt carry much weight in the opinion market !! and his nickname isnt because of his table manner either!!'"
How much weight do you carry in the opinion market?
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| Quote ="EXPRO"Ha Ha Matt Head??? any player that has a nickname of "ole windy" amongst players in Oz doesnt carry much weight in the opinion market !! and his nickname isnt because of his table manner either!!'"
Don't really recall Matty Head Being a windy bugger when he was here, in all fairness i remember him playing one game at home where he was on another planet after getting smashed in a tackle and still running the show for us.
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| Michael Dobson does exactly what we need him to do, A cracking little player who'll only get better and has his best years ahead of him hopefully with Hull Kingston Rovers.
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| On this season's evidence I'd swap Long for Dobson, but I wouldn't if I was guaranteed Long would play every week.
Dobson is a decent player, but has failed in the nRL, he's a decent SL player but by no means top draw.
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| Quote ="bringbackbuck"Dobson is a decent player, but has failed in the nRL, he's a decent SL player but by no means top draw.'"
Slightly harsh but I can see where your coming from but that logic applied we only have 2 types of southern hemisphere players over here, either younger / in their prime failed ones or past it / pension seeking old ones. When you look at some of the quality players that have come over then failed ones aren't a bad option.
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| Quote ="barham red"Quote ="bringbackbuck"Dobson is a decent player, but has failed in the nRL, he's a decent SL player but by no means top draw.'"
Slightly harsh but I can see where your coming from but that logic applied we only have 2 types of southern hemisphere players over here, either younger / in their prime failed ones or past it / pension seeking old ones. When you look at some of the quality players that have come over then failed ones aren't a bad option.'"
TBH in most I'd prefer to sign an up and coming Aussie who is out to prove themselves and earn a starting slot back home ala Colin Best as an example. Ok they may not be top drawer like your Lockyers, Thurstons, Orfords etc but aslong as they have the basics and the will to do well I dont think you can go far wrong.
Sometimes when the top drawer players come over here they see it as a step down subconsciously and so dont put 100% into coming over here and whilst being here.
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| Quote ="bringbackbuck"On this season's evidence I'd swap Long for Dobson, but I wouldn't if I was guaranteed Long would play every week.
Dobson is a decent player, but has failed in the nRL, he's a decent SL player but by no means top draw.'"
Dobson never failed in the NRL so don't see where your coming from. He came over to England because he wasn't getting the necessary game time which he needed to develop his game and his career. He will definitely head back to the NRL at some time in the future. If he isn't top drawer then who else is a better kicker, organiser and general in SL who is actually fit and on the pitch every week.
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| Quote ="raynor the crab"Dobson never failed in the NRL so don't see where your coming from. He came over to England because he wasn't getting the necessary game time which he needed to develop his game and his career. He will definitely head back to the NRL at some time in the future. If he isn't top drawer then who else is a better kicker, organiser and general in SL who is actually fit and on the pitch every week.'"
I suspect his poor defence is a bigger issue across in the NRL so as you say he has a bit to work on before going back there and being a success IMO.
His injury record is second to none and the guy cant half kick a ball.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Michael Dobson does exactly what we need him to do, A cracking little player who'll only get better and has his best years ahead of him hopefully with Hull Kingston Rovers.'"
If we do sign Blake Green it will be a cracking young partnership.
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| Dobsons a good player and would of improved us simply by offering stability and a great kicking game. We didnt sign him because he needed a contract from the season he came or his visa would of expired and we could only offer one from the season after due to visa restirctions. Nothing more to it than that.
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| Quote ="bringbackbuck"Dobson is a decent player, but has failed in the nRL, he's a decent SL player but by no means top draw.'"
So what if Dobson never quite hit the standard needed over in the NRL, he has been more than decent at Catalan, Wigan and now us.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"So what if Dobson never quite hit the standard needed over in the NRL, he has been more than decent at Catalan, Wigan and now us.'"
We signed Berro, a SOO and Test player, you signed Dobbo, an non-fancied 7 with no honours. Dobbo's been a SL smash and Berro has dissapointed.
So I'm with you - what went before is irrelevant if they do a job here.
Thankfully Fitz and Ogre packed their international class and brought it with them when they came.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Dobsons a good player and would of improved us simply by offering stability and a great kicking game. We didnt sign him because he needed a contract from the season he came or his visa would of expired and we could only offer one from the season after due to visa restirctions. Nothing more to it than that.'"
Nice that you fell for the spin
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Nice that you fell for the spin'" The visa issue is a fact, believing that Matty Head or anyone else for that matter had anything to do with it is pure speculation.
Now if you'd like to explain to me how we could of fitted Dobson on our quota in 2008 I'd be happy to listen.
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| Quote ="bringbackbuck"On this season's evidence I'd swap Long for Dobson, but I wouldn't if I was guaranteed Long would play every week.
Dobson is a decent player, but has failed in the nRL, he's a decent SL player but by no means top draw.'"
I think Dobson is a cracking little player and the reason he never got much of a chance in the NRL was because of his age in a team with 2 seasoned NRL pros ahead of him in the pecking order.He decided to take a gamble of returning to the UK rather than waiting for his chance.His gamble has paid off and no doubt in the future he would walk stright into most NRL teams.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"The visa issue is a fact, believing that Matty Head or anyone else for that matter had anything to do with it is pure speculation.
Now if you'd like to explain to me how we could of fitted Dobson on our quota in 2008 I'd be happy to listen.'"
Easily enough, we all know which one would have made way and was very willing too at the time.
But it never happened and everyone is happy with how things turned out
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Easily enough, we all know which one would have made way and was very willing too at the time.
But it never happened and everyone is happy with how things turned out'" Who? I'm intrigued.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Who? I'm intrigued.'"
Sing.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Sing.'"
Not easy on a text forum but here goes 2 3 4 "whom iiiiiiimm intrigued" all in b minor of course
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| Quote ="kitche"Not easy on a text forum but here goes 2 3 4 "whom iiiiiiimm intrigued" all in b minor of course
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I hope you're not here all week
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Sing.'" Yeah, I gathered that.
It's just BS. I really don't see the point in all this tbh, I'm happy with Matt Sing's version of events.
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