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| I quite agree we have 2 teams in the final both of which you could say that the coaches don't have their own teams.
So that pathetic excuse from some Hull fans wont wash with me.
Kevin Brown paid compliment to the ability of his coach.
Brett Hodgson said that although they are not a team of superstars they play as a team.
We cannot say either of those things.
For me the thing that both teams in the final have, are;
Respect for each other and their coach and a will to win both coupled with good coaching.
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"On paper, Huddersfield probably have a weaker squad than ours but they have a coach who's got them playing for each other and playing some great stuff too.
Really envious of them to be honest, mainly due to them having Brown at the helm. I've got huge respect for what he's doing there and hope they pick up some silverware this year.'"
Totally agree.
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| Quote ="tony 7"I quite agree we have 2 teams in the final both of which you could say that the coaches don't have their own teams.
So that pathetic excuse from some Hull fans wont wash with me.
Kevin Brown paid compliment to the ability of his coach.
Brett Hodgson said that although they are not a team of superstars they play as a team.
We cannot say either of those things.
For me the thing that both teams in the final have, are;
Respect for each other and their coach and a will to win both coupled with good coaching.'"
All things highlighted in bold!
is what we are lacking!!
Signing good players,only paper over the cracks!!
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| Huddersfield showed ambition with their coaching appointment, Hull didn't.
As someone pointed out on another thread, they also should've had Carney in their squad but he was refused a visa.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Huddersfield showed ambition with their coaching appointment, Hull didn't.
As someone pointed out on another thread, they also should've had Carney in their squad but he was refused a visa.'"
The fact they interviewed Folkes as well.
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| Quote ="Standee"The fact they interviewed Folkes as well.'"
Whereas we ignored his come-and-get-me.
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| Quote ="Standee"Huddersfield bin Thorman and Sharp, bring in a top cach and a great half back pairing.
But hey, it's not "his team", nor was it Smiths team yesterday.
But some on here will still want to give Agar a "chance".'"
Brown and Robinson are not a 'great' half back pairing IMO.
Otherwise I agree with your point.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Brown and Robinson are not a 'great' half back pairing IMO.
Otherwise I agree with your point.'"
They work hard for one another, and the team seem to know what plays are on.
They'd walk into FC's side.
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| Quote ="Standee"They work hard for one another, and the team seem to know what plays are on.
They'd walk into FC's side.'"
I'd walk into FC's squad at the moment.
They do a job, but they are a fair way short of being great. They just look great compared to what we have.
Hodgson is their key player rather than their halves.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I'd walk into FC's squad at the moment.
They do a job, but they are a fair way short of being great. They just look great compared to what we have.
Hodgson is their key player rather than their halves.'"
Hmm, a solid back pairing and a creative full back, if only that was an option for FC.
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| Quote ="Standee"Hmm, a solid back pairing and a creative full back, if only that was an option for FC.
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Thing is with Brown,he was bloody awful in Aus.
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| Quote ="Standee"Hmm, a solid back pairing and a creative full back, if only that was an option for FC.
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They would be useless behind a beaten pack, in the first five games of this season our pack competed and our very average half backs did enough to get us over the line, when the injuries hit and our pack stopped competing thats when our halves stopped being usefull not to mention us having to split them up on numerous occasions.
And a few are saying this isn't Browns side but he was appointed before the end of last season and Huds made 11 new signings this year go figure.
he might not have signed them all but i bet he had a good few tapes on the new signings and a full off season with the team.
I would also like to see what he would do with the injury list we have.
Not doubting he is one of the top coaches in the game but you cant coach without the talent available and Huds have not had anywhere near the injuries we have had.
But of course thats the coaches fault.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Thing is with Brown,he was bloody awful in Aus.'" mmm I am wondering if he is another Peter Sharp but i suppose only time will tell.
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| Quote ="rich1977"They would be useless behind a beaten pack, in the first five games of this season our pack competed and our very average half backs did enough to get us over the line, when the injuries hit and our pack stopped competing thats when our halves stopped being usefull not to mention us having to split them up on numerous occasions.
And a few are saying this isn't Browns side but he was appointed before the end of last season and Huds made 11 new signings this year go figure.
he might not have signed them all but i bet he had a good few tapes on the new signings and a full off season with the team.
I would also like to see what he would do with the injury list we have.
Not doubting he is one of the top coaches in the game but you cant coach without the talent available and Huds have not had anywhere near the injuries we have had.
But of course thats the coaches fault.
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No team whoever the coach is can cope with the luck we have had. Even the mighty Saints are having a bit of trouble aren't they?
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| Quote ="airliebird58"No team whoever the coach is can cope with the luck we have had. Even the mighty Saints are having a bit of trouble aren't they?'"
Cannot argue with that at all. Saints miss a handfull of big game players and struggle big time.
No coincidence.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Cannot argue with that at all. Saints miss a handfull of big game players and struggle big time.
No coincidence.'"
id be quite happy to be struggling big time and sitting 2nd in the league and making the CC semi's
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| Quote ="UllFC"id be quite happy to be struggling big time and sitting 2nd in the league and making the CC semi's'"
End of the season is when it matters though. Injuries kicked in late in the season. Semi final losers and no grand final will make it a poor year for Saints...IMO.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Whereas we ignored his come-and-get-me.'"
We played a 'blinder'
Folkes CV
9 years Head coach at Canterbury.
2 Grand Finals
5 times in Play off series
Dally M coach of the year 2004.
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Richard Agar
Featherstone Lions
England Students coach
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Yorkshire Academy (Head Coach)
York City Knights (Head Coach)
Assistant coach:
Featherstone Rovers
We picked Agar!!
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| Quote ="weaver93"We played a 'blinder'
Folkes CV
9 years Head coach at Canterbury.
2 Grand Finals
5 times in Play off series
Dally M coach of the year 2004.
vs
Richard Agar
Featherstone Lions
England Students coach
England Academy
Yorkshire Academy (Head Coach)
York City Knights (Head Coach)
Assistant coach:
Featherstone Rovers
We picked Agar!!
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This agar thing is getting boring now,im sure when the board feels the need to get rid of him they will,at the end of the day whos going to listen to what people on here think.
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| Quote ="weaver93"We played a 'blinder'
Folkes CV
9 years Head coach at Canterbury.
2 Grand Finals
5 times in Play off series
Dally M coach of the year 2004.
vs
Richard Agar
Featherstone Lions
England Students coach
England Academy
Yorkshire Academy (Head Coach)
York City Knights (Head Coach)
Assistant coach:
Featherstone Rovers
We picked Agar!!
'" So folkes didn't serve an apprenticeship then???????? The 2 are not comparable, who's to say agar won't have a similar cv in 10 years time? Nobody can and nobody on here has even come close to doing what agar has done in his apprenticeship so have no experience to judge.
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| Quote ="wolfie"This agar thing is getting boring now,im sure when the board feels the need to get rid of him they will,at the end of the day whos going to listen to what people on here think.'"
Thank God for that, because we would have a problem then
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| good to see the Agar apologists out in force.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"So folkes didn't serve an apprenticeship then???????? The 2 are not comparable, who's to say agar won't have a similar cv in 10 years time? Nobody can and nobody on here has even come close to doing what agar has done in his apprenticeship so have no experience to judge.'"
He did serve an apprenticeship for 2 years.
He won the reserve grade Grand Final in the NRL in his second year.
HTH.
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| Quote ="Standee"good to see the Agar apologists out in force.
pathetic'"
Thats a real poor comment IMO. Some people arent as negative as you so become blinkered? Pro sport aint that black and white (pun intented).
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| Quote ="Standee"good to see the Agar apologists out in force.
pathetic'"
Are there a few more than you thought there would be?
This message board is a small snapshot of Hull FC fans and their opinions, and cannot be used as a barometer of popular thought.
Time will tell who ends up being right as with most things.
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