Martin.......Where are we??????
As far as I can see, we are mid table in a hard fought league. And looking at some of the games and decisions made against us (Child-gate), we aren't doing that bad. Do you actually know Agar or any of the players ? If so........ TELL 'EM WHAT YOU THINK.

I admit, i've been a bit disappointed with a couple of performances this season...... But thats the norm for any supportere of any club. I'm sure there will be a few questioning Smith's team selecting following Wire's defeat AT HOME to Salford. Ohhh and please dont say the players might have been tired.....as tiredness and injuries is no excuse (remember!!!). It just works out that way sometimes.

May i add........If Longy had not been taken off against Rovers,I'm sure that game would have been ours. Or maybe if one of you lot that is calling me was coaching the lads a week before we might have won by at least 30 points (

).
I saw the team training before that game......and they were determined. But poop happens and someone has to win. I have my view of whats happening this season and i'm not particularly unhappy with the team or set up. Those of you that are, shall i say, a tad peeved......FFS Just roll with it. Hull FC have been worse off . I know cos i was there....was you???? If not, go back supporting whoever you did in those days and enjoy your whining and booing !

Yeah........You tell 'em Butch!!!!

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adjective trusting, innocent, naive, unsuspecting, green, simple, silly, foolish, unsophisticated, credulous, born yesterday, wet behind the ears (informal), easily taken in, unsceptical, as green as grass I'm so gullible I believed him.

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easily tricked or fooled He is so gullible that he believes everything you tell him.

Yeah, bet you daren't tell him that face to face!

i enjoy rugby league. Hull fc is the team i choose to support. So no matter what league or position i will still go. Now that doesnt make me an idiot for supporting the club and yes i still have the same views as other do about agar too.

You've seemed to have forgotten a couple of years !. Maybe you FC buddie could assist you in recollection.

There may well be, but winning 2 c/cups in 2 years, on course to make it a 3rd and being consitantly winning games under him, not to meniton being comfortably in the top 3 in SL and scoring points for fun will have got him an awful lot of credit with Wire fans.

COntrast that with not beating a SL team in the cup in 3 years, not winning a playoff game in about as long (infact, not being in a position to actually play in a playoff game for 2 of the last 3 years, and this season looking shakey) Its hardly sensible comparison just to pick one game.

Whilst I applaud the supporters that travel everywhere and never have a bad word said against the club, at what point does common sense kick in? It's a business now, and whilst the club did very well in their early days of SL it won't last forever. An 'A'grade and stability are all well and good, but for it to be sustainable results must improve - attendance are falling, and will continue to fall unless performances improve.

I think if we still had relegation .. Agar would be nowhere near first team coach. More and more of the fans know what the club are up to and are not prepared to put up with it any longer .

Totally agree with that.....I know the arguments against relegation etc...however for me it does nothing for coaching development!!

I personally think it's killed SL .

I said the same, then was shot down...it is for development and all that cr@p....It added spice to the game it made it what it should be all about results!! the bottom end was as exciting to watch at the end of the season as the top end...I still rememeber that Wakey v Cas game, awesome!! The RFL are a bunch of idiots simple as!

OK... back to being sensible. Will 'performances improve though, while the rest of SL is improving all the time with the effects of the cap. Just as we all knew it would. IMHO the SL will remain as it is for a couple of years......The same teams doing the 'buisness' throughout the season and the rest hoping for them to slip-up in the cup and the play-offs.
We have all looked at Warrington with a raised eyebrow and asked the 'same questions'.... but any team can just click into gear and find a formula. I dont think its down to Agar, the way we play its down to his game plans not being executed, or the game plan not being completed. Maybe a bit of panic sets in to keep the 'Wolves' amongst our fans (

) happy, or maybe its what i said earlier......Dropped ball, refs bad calls and luck all against us.
Dont wanna fall out with anyone over OUR TEAM...... but thats what they are. I just prefer to be the 14th man and not help lay the land-mines!

Different reasons imo....

Agar not the right man.

Average team.

Club not always signing players for the right positions.

But that is the thing, it isn't, according to you, "our team", but then, having previously seen your observations on the racial mix of London and all the evils it is responsible for, I think I'll just not bother to respond in future, you have issues.

With the cap, franchises, etc. the one thing a club needs is a catalyst and for me that should be the coach. Huddersfield are a prime example, and with their British talent I can see them being there for a while. Bradford and Saints lived off the good work of certain coaches for years (Saints still are), it just needs a catalyst.

You win your bet!


Us is a keyboard warrior

Are you saying i'm a racist???? I now demand an answer

It had better be a bloody good one too!!!

I am speaking, as I have via PM, of what I recall about your postings elsewhere on these forums and other sites over a number of years, if I have misinterpreted than I apologise.

You have.....Accepted. Now lets not get all giddy with the keyboard. We are afterall ALL IN THE SAME BOAT EH ? And you above many others should know be a lot better than that mate!

We're not in the same boat, you blindly follow and hand over your cash, which is fine, but to denegrate those of us who dare to want more is a little unfair, to say the least.

And a private reply to my PM would be appreciated, then we can set it straight once and for all.

Do you not go anymore then???? Oh..and like i said earlier....Its easier to support a winning team. Try Wigan, they look good at the minute


Personally...gonna stick with Hull. Dunno.....just have a feeling

I still go, but I don't follow blindly.

And thanks for the PM, nice to have things sorted.

We've been overtaken by three teams in 3 years , Were stagnating on the playing side and we haven't improved one bit under Agar .

Hull FC 2007 to 20?? - agar - the wasted years