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| Meanwhile....
[url=http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/Theatre-s-funding-cut-163-100-000/article-2924099-detail/article.htmlCity councillors have approved a £100,000 funding cut to Hull Truck Theatre[/url
Quote The move was agreed by cabinet councillors as part of a £344,000 package of savings in cultural services spending by the authority next year.
It comes just weeks after the award-winning theatre company based in Ferensway had its main Art Council grant reduced by nearly £40,000 to £520,000.
Other council cultural services cuts next year include £50,000 being shaved off the budget for the Freedom Festival and a £65,000 reduction in spending on tourism marketing.
Leisure services spending is also being cut.'"
The HDM also reports Hull City Hall and the New Theatre to have £55k "staff savings", £340k savings from staff restructuring and reduced opening times at Hull museums, free parking at Hull Arena to be scrapped, possible closure of the cafe at Ferens Art Gallery, opening times and staff to be cut at Costello Stadium and possible closure of three Lesisure centre creches.
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| Will the golf stand be closer to the pitch and not the distance it is now? Still wont stop you getting that wind right up your arris.Also...with there being "seats" there now.......will Rovers be charging full price for ALL away teams and not just us....not that im botherd as not been yet and no intention of ever doing.
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| Your right Mr wall it was'nt condemned however a prohibition order was placed on it last Novemeber until a lot of work was completed on it because it was dropping to bits. It was then reinspected by the Council and passsed fit to use last season. It will be inspected again and given a certificate before it can be used again once it has been moved.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"stop listening to the voices in your head as they make you look like a tard.'"
What is "a tard" ?
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| Quote ="Forever FC"I think the council's freedom of information team may be very busy as they will have to supply the answers to anyone about the deal.It does seem a little hazy as who will be providing the adult education? (at a time when the fund for adult education has been slashed and 5 minutes from the multi million pound freedom centre which Hull adult eduction is already based in).
[urlhttp://www.hullcc.gov.uk/portal/page?_pageid=221,52569&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL[/url'"
Thanks for that, don't mind if I do.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Your right Mr wall it was'nt condemned however a prohibition order was placed on it last Novemeber until a lot of work was completed on it because it was dropping to bits. It was then reinspected by the Council and passsed fit to use last season. It will be inspected again and given a certificate before it can be used again once it has been moved.'" This is all true but it is safe atm which pretty much confirms that is isnt about to 'fall to bits'.
Im not sure if Karl thinks it will be moved in 1 piece as if he does its a bit of a silly thing to think as it will have to be dismantled to be moved anyway.
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| Quote ="hullbg"I got in the golf stand no problem last season and The only downside was that i got a Rovers season pass form through the post because i bought a ticket from their online office.'"
me too though someone was taking the when i got a form for a pass also
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| for me its good news, rovers improving there stadium is good news for rugby league in hull and the image of super league.
its what we need as a sport, teams improving stadia and facilites
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| Maybe the Council might 'back' my fund raising campaign to become a woman. The Lib Dems can always be counted on to suppoort a campaign ! There are loads of campaigns where they are nothing more than perfume politicians . Smell nice but NO substance. Minns would support a campaign to get a mono rail system from Woodcock St to Walkington as long as his face was there on the poster ! Will he march on Brussels when the funding is declined in 2012 !! Also , what private investor has £2m for a stand in East Hull ?????
Will Hudge be getting a loan from Dublin ?
The most important thing is the SL franchise panel asking " so , just where is the cash for this fancy drawing of a new stand ?" Preston Road has taken any ££ that that area will ever need.
Highly amusing to me
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| Quote ="Roverswall"This is all true but it is safe atm which pretty much confirms that is isnt about to 'fall to bits'.
Im not sure if Karl thinks it will be moved in 1 piece as if he does its a bit of a silly thing to think as it will have to be dismantled to be moved anyway.'"
Thats were the problem may lie, once its dismantled that might expose any problems.
May be sound now, but rust may be holding the joints together
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Thats were the problem may lie, once its dismantled that might expose any problems.
May be sound now, but rust may be holding the joints together
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BTW are we still using the threepenny stand at CP?
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Thats were the problem may lie, once its dismantled that might expose any problems.
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May be sound now, but rust may be holding the joints together
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Is rust bollox holding the thing together. Last derby match there was a good fifty of us at the back of the golf towards the Roger Millward side. We jumped up as we scored and the back plank which formed the floor on the highest "terrace" failed exposing a whole line of seats with no floor to the potential of the abyss.
The stewards freaked, but as it was a packed derby (although Hull supporters had boycotted the South and were populating the North) there was nowhere to herd us to. Nevertheless, their "Health and Safety" training kicked in and they advised us to "step back from the hole".
Now, I'm a fair person, but a breach of the safety of that "stand" happened on Good Friday, evacuations were not made on that day and the "stand" has being operational still to the end of the season. Hmm
How often is a stadium inspected for "fit for use" to health and safety regulations? Because after witnessing what I did in April, I'm sure it could not have been since then.
Perhaps this is why the North stand development has taken priority over the East? The Golf, after another year exposed to the elements after a breach last April, will not meet safety and therefore SL Franchise standard. So by losing the Golf, the capacity of CP would decrease by 1300. Need to press the council for the North stand development pdq, then.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Is rust bollox holding the thing together. Last derby match there was a good fifty of us at the back of the golf towards the Roger Millward side. We jumped up as we scored and the back plank which formed the floor on the highest "terrace" failed exposing a whole line of seats with no floor to the potential of the abyss.
The stewards freaked, but as it was a packed derby (although Hull supporters had boycotted the South and were populating the North) there was nowhere to herd us to. Nevertheless, their "Health and Safety" training kicked in and they advised us to "step back from the hole".
Now, I'm a fair person, but a breach of the safety of that "stand" happened on Good Friday, evacuations were not made on that day and the "stand" has being operational still to the end of the season. Hmm
How often is a stadium inspected for "fit for use" to health and safety regulations? Because after witnessing what I did in April, I'm sure it could not have been since then.
Perhaps this is why the North stand development has taken priority over the East? The Golf, after another year exposed to the elements after a breach last April, will not meet safety and therefore SL Franchise standard. So by losing the Golf, the capacity of CP would decrease by 1300. Need to press the council for the North stand development pdq, then.'"
My foot went through it in the first SL season, heap o cack!
I wonder if they will install flavoured windows around it when it moves to the other end for the "home" fans
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| Quote ="kingston droolers"My foot went through it in the first SL season, heap o cack!
I wonder if they will install flavoured windows around it when it moves to the other end for the "home" fans'"
My God, kingston droolers in 'making fun of the disabled' shocker.
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| Quote ="Roofs"My God, kingston droolers in 'making fun of the disabled' shocker.
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How do you get that?
The golf stand will become exclusive to home fans, i hope for your sake it is improved, maybe a roof, maybe some side protection from the howling wind, these would have to be clear perspex as not to disrupt sight lines
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| Quote ="kingston droolers"How do you get that?
The golf stand will become exclusive to home fans, i hope for your sake it is improved, maybe a roof, maybe some side protection from the howling wind, these would have to be clear perspex as not to disrupt sight lines'"
Oh right, accept my apologies. I mistakingly linked 'flavoured' to taste (which with a window would mean licking, as you can't bite a window), and then linked this to your many 'window licker' (a derogatory term used sometimes about disabled people) comments/references in the past, and so suspected you was having yet another go at disabled people. Sorry if I've got it wrong.
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| Quote ="arliebird"for me its good news, rovers improving there stadium is good news for rugby league in hull and the image of super league.
its what we need as a sport, teams improving stadia and facilites'"
Spot on, i am however unsure about the local council effectively been the guarantour for said clubs repayments. Not sure that sits well with me.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Spot on, i am however unsure about the local council effectively been the guarantour for said clubs repayments. Not sure that sits well with me.'"
Thats the crux of the issue Dave surely their multi million owners could of been guarantors for a project of this nature. Its a private business and some of our elected members have chosen to put the city's regeneration prospects at risk. there where plenty that wanted the lincoln castle bought but the councillors wouldn't back any plans to create a tourist attraction.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Spot on, i am however unsure about the local council effectively been the guarantour for said clubs repayments. Not sure that sits well with me.'"
Short of 'nothing', What less could they have done?
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| Where's the Parasol of Virtue in all this?
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Short of 'nothing', What less could they have done?'"
Let Rovers apply for the funding directly and not offer themselves up as a guarantour.
(obviously that would have severely limited the chance of the borrowing been successfully obtained)
My preference in the current climate would have still been to do nothing. Go see the friendly local bank manager at Lloyds TSB and see if they will give you 4.2mill.
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| Quote ="Forever FC"Thats the crux of the issue Dave surely their multi million owners could of been guarantors for a project of this nature. Its a private business and some of our elected members have chosen to put the city's regeneration prospects at risk. there where plenty that wanted the lincoln castle bought but the councillors wouldn't back any plans to create a tourist attraction.'"
I'm interested to know on what basis the council decided to guarantee this. If i went to them and said i have a 1000 acres of land and needed them to borrow 5mill for me to build wind turbines which will benefit the envirnment etc do you think they'd simply give me the cash? (or would i need to get John Prescott to support me to get it?)
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| at the end of the day,hudgell and crossland do not have the finances to guarantee repayments personally,so have gone to the council.if anything goes wrong i am sure the council could take over craven park themselves.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"at the end of the day,hudgell and crossland do not have the finances to guarantee repayments personally,so have gone to the council.if anything goes wrong i am sure the council could take over craven park themselves.'"
The council couldnt take over craven park, thats generally not how this type of borrowing works. I couldnt act as guarantour for a mates borrowing for example and the claim his house of him if he doesnt make the payments, i'd simply be liable to make his payments.
Even if the council did manage to take craven park that would only pay £500 of the debt off, who will clear the remaining 4mill?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"The council couldnt take over craven park, thats generally not how this type of borrowing works. I couldnt act as guarantour for a mates borrowing for example and the claim his house of him if he doesnt make the payments, i'd simply be liable to make his payments.
Even if the council did manage to take craven park that would only pay £500 of the debt off, who will clear the remaining 4mill?
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the council would go to court and employ hudg on a ''no win no fee basis'' to attempt to go in to administration
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