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| Quote ="hullbg"That and the fact it is open till the 5th of September, although those arriving after yesterday obviously do not matter.'"
When you consider it is still high holiday season it becomes very apparent it is just a PR exercise....had the last board made a decision before 5th Sept they would be slated....
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| "We had planned on waiting until September 5 and the end of the survey date before making any decision, but I feel we have the support to press ahead with this decision now. I've heard all the arguments for Friday night rugby, but gates are dropping and in my personal opinion that is down to three factors. Success on the pitch, price and Friday nights. We are going to look at all three areas, but this is the first one we are going to address."
The price issue will be dealt with in coming weeks with Pearson saying a small reduction is likely.
I reckon he knows what he is doing and knows what he is going to do. If we become more successful and he does drop the price then the gates will raise no matter what day we play on.
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| Quote ="Pal of Mine""We had planned on waiting until September 5 and the end of the survey date before making any decision, but I feel we have the support to press ahead with this decision now. I've heard all the arguments for Friday night rugby, but gates are dropping and in my personal opinion that is down to three factors. Success on the pitch, price and Friday nights. We are going to look at all three areas, but this is the first one we are going to address."
The price issue will be dealt with in coming weeks with Pearson saying a small reduction is likely.
I reckon he knows what he is doing and knows what he is going to do. If we become more successful and he does drop the price then the gates will raise no matter what day we play on.'"
So if he had decided on changing to Sundays all along why the pretence of asking what the fans think?
I for one would be interested to know how many fans prefer Friday and how many said Sunday.
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| Quote ="Diogenes"So if he had decided on changing to Sundays all along why the pretence of asking what the fans think?
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Where does he say that?
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| Quote ="Kosh"Where does he say that?
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I think it can safely be implied from the fact that the decision was announced a week before the closing date for the survey.
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"it becomes very apparent it is just a PR exercise'"
How's that then? It maybe the fact that the club know exactly how many surveys they have sent out and have now received the vast majority back meaning they can announce this now as the ones they are still waiting to get back won't overturn a majority that have been returned asking for Sunday rugby.
Fact is Pearson is in a now win situation with this as he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't as there are winners and losers with this issue the same as when it was changed from Sundays to Fridays.
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| Quote ="Diogenes"I think it can safely be implied from the fact that the decision was announced a week before the closing date for the survey.'"
Or it could be for the reason stated - i.e. there was a large enough response already to make it clear which way the wind was blowing. Neither option has any better evidence than the other.
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| Quote ="Chris71"How's that then? It maybe the fact that the club know exactly how many surveys they have sent out and have now received the vast majority back meaning they can announce this now as the ones they are still waiting to get back won't overturn a majority that have been returned asking for Sunday rugby.'"
A point I've been trying to make on a couple of threads to no avail. For some reason the conspiracy theory seems to be more attractive.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Or it could be for the reason stated - i.e. there was a large enough response already to make it clear which way the wind was blowing. Neither option has any better evidence than the other.'"
If you read the comments on this site the preferences seem to be fairly evenly split. I don't detect a massive groundswell in support of Sundays.
Its a bit like stopping counting the votes part way through a general election count because one party was miles ahead. Sorry but it just seems wrong to me.
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| Quote ="Diogenes"If you read the comments on this site the preferences seem to be fairly evenly split. I don't detect a massive groundswell in support of Sundays.
Its a bit like stopping counting the votes part way through a general election count because one party was miles ahead. Sorry but it just seems wrong to me.'"
What makes you think that the comments on here are in any way representative of the feelings of the majority of FC fans or even the respondents to the survey?
As it happens, candidates and Prime Ministers have conceded elections based on exactly that principle before now.
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| Quote ="Diogenes"If you read the comments on this site the preferences seem to be fairly evenly split. I don't detect a massive groundswell in support of Sundays.
Its a bit like stopping counting the votes part way through a general election count because one party was miles ahead. Sorry but it just seems wrong to me.'"
Lest face it AP owns the club so he does what he wants. I think this move will be followed up with cheaper season tickets and a new coach so overall I don't think there is much to complain about.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Lest face it AP owns the club so he does what he wants. I think this move will be followed up with cheaper season tickets and a new coach so overall I don't think there is much to complain about.'"
He can indeed. And we all have the right to decide whether to give him our hard earned cash or not.
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| Quote ="Diogenes"He can indeed. And we all have the right to decide whether to give him our hard earned cash or not.'"
Just like people who can't make Friday's have done. Never gonna please all fans.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Just like people who can't make Friday's have done. Never gonna please all fans.'"
Can't argue with that. Only time will tell whether AP's decision is right for the club. It will be good news to some fans and not to others. Will the fans who will now be able to go on Sundays make up for those who can't? Who knows.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Lest face it AP owns the club so he does what he wants. I think this move will be followed up with cheaper season tickets and a new coach so overall I don't think there is much to complain about.'"
Agreed as said above.
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| With a very small percentage taking part in these surveys surely it would have been a much better idea to canvass fans going into the game to get their opinion as well as the online survey.
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| Another point is this survey was brought out just before the wembley weekend and bank holiday weekend where plenty of people go away or go down to London. The first some people have seen of this survey is the fact it has been decided the majority want Sunday rugby.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Another point is this survey was brought out just before the wembley weekend and bank holiday weekend where plenty of people go away or go down to London. [uThe first some people have seen of this survey is the fact it has been decided the majority want Sunday rugby[/u.'"
Fair enough but that's still more than most people saw of the survey a few years back
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| Quote ="hullbg"With a very small percentage taking part in these surveys surely it would have been a much better idea to canvass fans going into the game to get their opinion as well as the online survey.'"
But if you can't make it on a Friday you wouldn't have been able to complete the survey?
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| Quote ="Pal of Mine"But if you can't make it on a Friday you wouldn't have been able to complete the survey?
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The fact season pass sales never dropped dramatically when we switched to fridays says not a big percentage cannot go on Fridays. Probably the same amount who cannot go on fridays. Yet to get the overall majority opinion a pool on game day would get a much fairer opinion.
Think AP had already decided we were going back to Sundays regardless of the survey and that is his right. We all know why attendances are down and it has nothing to do with Friday night games.
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| Quote ="Pal of Mine"But if you can't make it on a Friday you wouldn't have been able to complete the survey?
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Fair point, however maybe inform fans via media Hull Daily Mail, and an announcement on Humberside letting the fans know they are taking all their views seriously.
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| Quote ="Diogenes"Can't argue with that. Only time will tell whether AP's decision is right for the club. It will be good news to some fans and not to others. Will the fans who will now be able to go on Sundays make up for those who can't? Who knows.'"
the only decision AP needs to get right for the club is bringing in a new and exciting coach to get the enthusiasm back which has being sucked dry by the current set up, fridays or Sundays will make very little difference, the crowds would flood back!
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"the only decision AP needs to get right for the club is bringing in a new and exciting coach to get the enthusiasm back which has being sucked dry by the current set up, fridays or Sundays will make very little difference, the crowds would flood back!'"
No arguement from me on that point.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"the only decision AP needs to get right for the club is bringing in a new and exciting coach to get the enthusiasm back which has being sucked dry by the current set up, fridays or Sundays will make very little difference, the crowds would flood back!'"
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"the only decision AP needs to get right for the club is bringing in a new and exciting coach to get the enthusiasm back which has being sucked dry by the current set up, fridays or Sundays will make very little difference, the crowds would flood back!'"
Correct, and if he thinks changing game day to a Sunday, well, hes going to be in for a bit of a shock, the only way the attendance will go back up, is to employ a new coaqch, and surely he knows this??
Fans would turn out on a Tuesday night, if the team was challenging and playing exciting rugby, day or night match doesnt make much difference, if the teams winning, the crowds will come!
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