When we want the opinion of a nazi we will ask for it

Or even a loyal supporter that follows his team home and away to every ground

Top coaches (particularly ozzie ones) look at the opposition in minute detail looking for any weaknesses to expolit. I'm convinced agar doesn't do any of it as there is never any evidnce on game days that he has

If you had a brain I think you'd realise he meant saints were playing at around 30% of their potential. It was a complement you fukwit

he doesn't as i said in aearlier thread he didn't instruct the team or players on friday night to target young saints winger johny Lomax clueless

Lomax is a fullback normally and as such comfortable dealing with kicks, so why would you think targeting him would have brought any results? Dont assume cos we didnt kick to him more often that the coaching staff dont assess opposition weakness in detail.

Because he is the least experienced player playing on a bigger stage than normal,simple really

So does that mean he would all of a sudden lose the ability to catch!

Possibly! Due to no pressure being applied, we never found out!!

What do you mean, WE. St Helen's success on the field has nothing to do with you.

Agar is not Head Coach material.

I don't wish to sound cruel, but when he is interviewed he doesn't come across as very bright and in fact sounds not at all confident in himself.

How the players respond to this man being in charge is there for all to see.

The club needs a leader.

Someone with a reputation and pedigree, who the players will listen and learn from.

Someone who can get the best out of the players he has, and identify the players he needs.

This man is not Agar.

Never has been and never will be.

No not all numpty, but surely any coach with any tatical nous would look a youngster to exploit any weakness and put him under pressure from the off to see if he is up to it

simple really

In SL games since he took over from sharp it's been P 28 W 10 L 18

Appalling stats for me. Take out the 5 wins in a row at the start of this season and it's 5 wins from the other 23 games. 6 home defeats in a row, 2nd bottom last season, not looking good this season. I believe the players we have are capable of far better and he is undoubtedly the problem

Do you know what Sharpe's stats were whilst at Hull? It'd be interesting to compare.

That's worse than I thought that they would be, though.

Doesnt matter how many he won in a row, they all still count for 2 points.

ah hah! a new day new anti-agar post congratulations old chap.
Now you've started your crusade do you want hull to start winning or do you want them to lose to validate your point of view???
And no I am not happy with current results but I am not sure that a personal vendetta againt the coach is the best way forward.

We want Agar out.

Not a crusade he just isn't up to the job of taking this club forward he is out of his depth

I just looked it up, and apparently Agar's stats are and Sharp's were
Thoughts?


EDIT: And since 1998, McRae has had the best win rate, with 55.2% from 87 matchs in charge.

[url=http://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/teams/Hull_FC/coaches.htmlSource (NB, I added three losses and 3 games to Agar's stats, as that site hasn't recorded our last 3 games, which in turn made Agar's win rate change).[/url

I want what's best for the club and that's agar out

sharpy's better than agar

Panda92 and Brither yes we know your opinion it's put forward every day. this subject could be put into a single subject called "Agar Out!" or something like that just as the rumour subject is. Not that I am complaining about the moderators you understand. But to continually have thrwad after thread on the same subject is boring and it makes finding different things difficult to find if you have a very slow internet connection as I do when on board ship. 64K between 15 computers so slow to open the SOS threads.

So, peter sharp has a win loss ratio only very marginally worse than McRae, intersting that considering some of the things posted about him.

Thoughts
people complained about bomber before he left then things went downhill after he left.
Be careful what you wish for!

But, at the same time, McRae did manage 20-odd more games than Sharp, so he was more consistent.

1% better win ratio, hardly "more consistent",