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| Well deserved win. Congratulations to Naughton, bright debut. Weird selection but down to pretty much our last fit players with Sa, Yeaman, Ellis, Watts, Sneyd, Green and Whiting all out and losing Hadley early that's still a good result away at the champions. Enjoyed by the faithful behind the sticks too, really good afternoon.
Not going to pretend it was anything other than a knackered scrap, but look out for Shaul's winner. Special.
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| Very good result. To those who went, how was the performance?
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| Nice interview with Radford on Humberside slagging all you fickle fans off, not the true fans just you fickle ones on here.
Good win by the way (which I predicted)
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Very good result. To those who went, how was the performance?'"
Not that different to be games we've lost by a score or so tbh. But as said both sides tired and busted, highish error rate. Thought our kicking game (well, Rankin's) was better today but not sure we can take much from it other than the mental plus point of closing out a tight game.
Body language of the players better too, but maybe just relief at the end.
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| Quote ="bonaire"I really hate it when we lose but want this idiot out ASAP so will accept a heavy defeat today if it makes Pearson wake up.
A Huddesfield type defeat will confirm he has lost the dressing room'"
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Not that different to be games we've lost by a score or so tbh. But as said both sides tired and busted, highish error rate. Thought our kicking game (well, Rankin's) was better today but not sure we can take much from it other than the mental plus point of closing out a tight game.
Body language of the players better too, but maybe just relief at the end.'"
Cheers. Just have to see if we can actually manage 2 wins in a row now, heady days.
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| What exactly has Radford said?
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Cheers. Just have to see if we can actually manage 2 wins in a row now, heady days.'"
Got some options in the backs v Widnes, Sa might be back. Cupboard's bare in the forwards though. Been suggested Sa to back row. Any timescales on Ellis or Watts?
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"What exactly has Radford said?'"
It's [url=https://twitter.com/HumbersideSporthere[/url, but it seems that you now need to register on audioBoom before you can listen to it.
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| Quote ="bishops finger"Nice interview with Radford on Humberside slagging all you fickle fans off, not the true fans just you fickle ones on here.
Good win by the way (which I predicted)
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If being fickle is still supporting your club even when you have a turd in charge then I'm guilty, what fickle ISNT is having no faith in a coach whom is well, well out of his depth, has made more mistakes than you can shake a stick at and has moved us backwards over the last 20 months at an alarming rate...and then voicing your concerns, your obvious annoyance, questioning his ability to coach at the required level..ALL valid points when you look at the performances from said coach/team and in no way does that make fans fickle, that's truly pathetic from him.
You've won one game, instead of yapping on about stuff that you clearly can't even grasp, focus on the positives, focus on what you're going to do to win the next game and the game after that. IF you're so bothered Lee that you feel the need to spout on about fans whom don't want to attend games, it's because of the dross YOU, LEE RADFORD have served up, you haven't got an effing clue...RADFORD OUT..
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"If being fickle is still supporting your club even when you have a turd in charge then I'm guilty'"
Wow you're brave.
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| Radford said the fans should not question the players' effort or commitment. I'm not aware anyone had, just his coaching ability.
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| [* Quote ="Mrs Barista"Got some options in the backs v Widnes, Sa might be back. Cupboard's bare in the forwards though. Been suggested Sa to back row. Any timescales on Ellis or Watts?'"
Sa's a bit of a problem now. Our best centre when fit, but that's so unreliable it carries consistency/understanding between centre & winger issues. I can see the reasoning behind back row for him for now & leave Michaels in.
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| Quote ="Diogenes"Radford said the fans should not question the players' effort or commitment. I'm not aware anyone had, just his coaching ability.'"
Thought he thanked the hard core support and questioned the fickle ones basically.
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| I'll qualify that I haven't heard the interview, but I think Radford has a right of reply tbh. He's been asked to do a job and whatever competence level he displays I've not heard anyone question his commitment. In a highly charged working environment having thousands of people write live and damning appraisals with frankly vitriolic tone must be psychologically damaging. People want their severe and emotive criticism taken on board but can't accept an emotional reaction to it?
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| Quote ="Diogenes"Radford said the fans should not question the players' effort or commitment. I'm not aware anyone had, just his coaching ability.'"
Absolutely. I'd say most fans have openly acknowledged the effort, saying that we are clueless, not effortless.
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| Good win today, well done.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I'll qualify that I haven't heard the interview, but I think Radford has a right of reply tbh. He's been asked to do a job and whatever competence level he displays I've not heard anyone question his commitment. In a highly charged working environment having thousands of people write live and damning appraisals with frankly vitriolic tone must be psychologically damaging. People want their severe and emotive criticism taken on board but can't accept an emotional reaction to it?'"
Of course he does. If you can't take it don't give it out I would say. It's noticeable that there is barely any mention of his name when we win on here. We have lots of shortcomings and he needs to fix up a lot of things. I had had enough on Thursday night but he's just coached a depleted team to victory at a depleted Saints. Congratulations to him and his staff.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I'll qualify that I haven't heard the interview, but I think Radford has a right of reply tbh. He's been asked to do a job and whatever competence level he displays I've not heard anyone question his commitment. In a highly charged working environment having thousands of people write live and damning appraisals with frankly vitriolic tone must be psychologically damaging. People want their severe and emotive criticism taken on board but can't accept an emotional reaction to it?'"
All depends what has been said and how (and like you I haven't heard it). If he was having a pop at people for questioning effort & commitment (which I don't think many have) then he's on shaky ground. If he's simply thanking those who went today for staying faithful, then fair enough.
An emotional response is to be expected, but getting confrontational/provocative on the back of one win with the overall record he has and the performances we're still seeing would be a bit premature. Best to see if you can back it up first.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"All depends what has been said and how (and like you I haven't heard it). If he was having a pop at people for questioning effort & commitment (which I don't think many have) then he's on shaky ground. If he's simply thanking those who went today for staying faithful, then fair enough.
An emotional response is to be expected, but getting confrontational/provocative on the back of one win with the overall record he has and the performances we're still seeing would be a bit premature. Best to see if you can back it up first.'"
Can't remember what he said exactly but basically he said he wasn't bothered about the fans who change their minds every week about their view but instead praised the 'hard core' fans who support the club through thick and thin. Fair enough in my opinion.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"If being fickle is still supporting your club even when you have a turd in charge then I'm guilty, what fickle ISNT is having no faith in a coach whom is well, well out of his depth, has made more mistakes than you can shake a stick at and has moved us backwards over the last 20 months at an alarming rate...and then voicing your concerns, your obvious annoyance, questioning his ability to coach at the required level..ALL valid points when you look at the performances from said coach/team and in no way does that make fans fickle, that's truly pathetic from him.
You've won one game, instead of yapping on about stuff that you clearly can't even grasp, focus on the positives, focus on what you're going to do to win the next game and the game after that. IF you're so bothered Lee that you feel the need to spout on about fans whom don't want to attend games, it's because of the dross YOU, LEE RADFORD have served up, you haven't got an effing clue...RADFORD OUT..
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| IN Quote ="carl_spackler"All depends what has been said and how (and like you I haven't heard it). If he was having a pop at people for questioning effort & commitment (which I don't think many have) then he's on shaky ground. If he's simply thanking those who went today for staying faithful, then fair enough.
An emotional response is to be expected, but getting confrontational/provocative on the back of one win with the overall record he has and the performances we're still seeing would be a bit premature. Best to see if you can back it up first.'"
Yep, huge game on Friday. If we could win that and get through the cup game, maybe one or two players back for a vital run of games.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Of course he does. If you can't take it don't give it out I would say. =#0000BFIt's noticeable that there is barely any mention of his name when we win on here. We have lots of shortcomings and he needs to fix up a lot of things. I had had enough on Thursday night but he's just coached a depleted team to victory at a depleted Saints. Congratulations to him and his staff.'"
So what? Why does it need to be for an isolated win? Just as if we were winning nearly every week it wouldn't be right to rip into him or call for his head after one loss, people aren't obliged to praise him for winning one game. If he guides us to several wins and performance improvements, THEN people should be expected to man up and acknowledge he's done well.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"So what? Why does it need to be for an isolated win? Just as if we were winning nearly every week it wouldn't be right to rip into him or call for his head after one loss, people aren't obliged to praise him for winning one game. If he guides us to several wins and performance improvements, THEN people should be expected to man up and acknowledge he's done well.'"
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Of course he does. If you can't take it don't give it out I would say. It's noticeable that there is barely any mention of his name when we win on here. We have lots of shortcomings and he needs to fix up a lot of things. I had had enough on Thursday night but he's just coached a depleted team to victory at a depleted Saints. Congratulations to him and his staff.'"
He coached nothing.What he did was put on the field what he thought was a fit 17 he had available.
He had three hookers on the field at one time and particularly Howarth didn't know where he was supposed to be playing.Thats not coaching
He also continues to use Feka for an innefective 10 mins per game.
Whilst we are short of numbers he should recall Tyson-Wilson from Doncaster because if its only 10 mins he wants from the player then he would be more effective at the moment than Feka.
It was a great effort from the players but its just papering over the cracks and gives Radford a lifeline for another few weeks which we didn't need if you want this club to move forward
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