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| Quote ="supersuperfc"so if all of our pass holders wore red and white scarves they wouldnt care? really? we are in no way like man utd. They lose 10,000 pass holders there are 50,000 lining up to take there place. Is it the same with us?'"
Do you honestly think all pass holders wouldn't renew passes?
I wonder what planet some people live on sometimes.
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| Quote ="supersuperfc"so if all of our pass holders wore red and white scarves they wouldnt care? really? we are in no way like man utd. They lose 10,000 pass holders there are 50,000 lining up to take there place. Is it the same with us?'"
wow thats going a bit far a red & white scarf....get a grip man
Can't we all wear bandana's & sunglasses...
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| Quote ="Standee"wear blindfolds, then like the board, you wont see the abject failiure on the pitch!'"
may appear a rather kinky demo that...would maybe work on sky
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| No i dont think all our passholders wouldnt renew. I was clearly talking about Man Utd as you brought them into this conversation a few pages back. Percentages wise, If they lost 10,000 pass holders it would maybe be the equivalent of us losing around 2,000. do I honestly believe we could lose said amount if things dont improve. Yes I do.
I live on Earth by the way, since you were wondering
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| I have got it we could
[size=150sing.[/size...that would shock 'em
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| We will have a minimum of 8000 passholders next year regardless of if we finished 14th this year.
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| Quote ="Standee"Explain to me what the point for the protest is?
Being profitable?
Being in 6th after 13 games?
There is no basis for a protest, unless you're going to call it the "We dont like Richard Agar" protest, which is, in a word, pathetic.
I dislike Agar as a coach with a passion, but a protest would do nothing but embarass us as fans.'"
How much of an influence where the (at the time toe-curling) protests of the Wire fans in getting rid of Cullen and then Lowe?
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| Quote ="Standee"
I dislike Agar as a coach with a passion, but a protest would do nothing but embarass us as fans.'"
How would it ?
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| Quote ="Hutchie"We will have a minimum of 8000 passholders next year regardless of if we finished 14th this year.'"
i doubt that very much
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| Quote ="EXPRO"
That said the timing of his new deal was baffling
Cant disagree there though, I[u believe it was in fear of the rumoured shuffle of coaches pending in SL[/u'"
What were we afraid of exactly? God forbid that a coach that's not led their team to 11th and 12th becomes available and we're in a position to capitalise on the opportunity.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"What were we afraid of exactly? God forbid that a coach that's not led their team to 11th and 12th becomes available and we're in a position to capitalise on the opportunity.
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How dare you berate them on that, the sealed the Agar deal just in case there was only McRae left after the merry go round, another shrewd move
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| Theres only one way to demonstrate and thats boycott the games. Standing outside banging and crashing, shouting and screaming at the boardroom door will do nothing to make this bunch of con merchants masquerading as a board of directors take notice, they will just turn the music up and close the curtains.
As for wearing scarves, well, cant see many doing that in the middle of July if we have a heatwave.
I for one, cant believe i was sucked in yet again by Rule and co, so much so that ive got an impending weekend coming up in France, booked mnths ago but hey ho, i could always sack the game off and stay in the Castle pub.
After 36 years of following this club, disillusioned isnt he word, taken the out of is probably more suitable. I might consider the derby game at the KC if ive got an ounce of interest left in me to drag myself there. I feel for some of the players, they have shortish careers compared to us people on civvy street, albeit paid good salaries but to see some players ability going downhill under the current coaching regime and to cap it all, backed up by the continuous bullt coming from Rule and co to further dampen my enthusiasm.
Anyone got any rope?
Then again, forget the hanging ceremony, your just not worth it Hull FC.
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| Quote ="t.m.t.b.f."Theres only one way to demonstrate and thats boycott the games. Standing outside banging and crashing, shouting and screaming at the boardroom door will do nothing to make this bunch of con merchants masquerading as a board of directors take notice, they will just turn the music up and close the curtains.
As for wearing scarves, well, cant see many doing that in the middle of July if we have a heatwave.
I for one, cant believe i was sucked in yet again by Rule and co, so much so that ive got an impending weekend coming up in France, booked mnths ago but hey ho, i could always sack the game off and stay in the Castle pub.
After 36 years of following this club, disillusioned isnt he word, taken the mickey out of is probably more suitable. I might consider the derby game at the KC if ive got an ounce of interest left in me to drag myself there. I feel for some of the players, they have shortish careers compared to us people on civvy street, albeit paid good salaries but to see some players ability going downhill under the current coaching regime and to cap it all, backed up by the continuous bullt coming from Rule and co to further dampen my enthusiasm.
Anyone got any rope?
Then again, forget the hanging ceremony, your just not worth it Hull FC.'"
Well said!
The more that see through the board the better!
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| A simple yet effective why of showing the fans displeasure at the current coach would be to photocopy AGAR OUT on A4 paper and hand them out like flyers near entrances to the stadium on matchday. Even better if the sky cameras are in town.
It wouldn't take a great deal organisation, a few like thinking fans share the cost of the photocopying and agree to hand them out. Trouble is you would probably face a fair bit of abuse from the so-called 'faithful' or pro-Agar fans (although it amazes me there are still any around).
Anyway, just a suggestion. It seems a bit harsh on Agar but needs must I suppose.
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| I still reckon that a protest might get taken a tad more seriously if it takes place some time after we drop below the triple champions, and preferably outside the top 8. Otherwise the casual observer is going to wonder what exactly the protest is about.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I still reckon that a protest might get taken a tad more seriously if it takes place some time after we drop below the triple champions, and preferably outside the top 8. Otherwise the casual observer is going to wonder what exactly the protest is about.'"
Yer you're right unfortunately. For a a protest of any kind to work to it's maximum potential unfortunately things need to get a bit worse in some supporters eyes.
The scarves idea is a total non-starter, it's worked to an extent for Man U because they are a global club who get so much publicity, but even then it's only had the effect of drawing attention to their cause, it doesn't
stand a chance of getting the Glazers out. Translating that idea to a minority sports club with average attendance of around 14000 is a ludicrous idea.
The A4 'Agar Out' placards is a workable idea though and if done at a tv game should put real pressure on the board to get rid of him. I couldn't care less whether it's harsh on Agar.
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| Can't someone sneak in a massive "Agar Out" banner and have two people walk it in front of the East Stand on a Sky game? That would get a bit of attention!
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Can't someone sneak in a massive "Agar Out" banner and have two people walk it in front of the East Stand on a Sky game? That would get a bit of attention!'"
TBH I'd rather it said "sack the board" or "Kath out"
The new people in with half a brain wouldnt employ Agar. If he goes now, with the current administration we'll only get another
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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"TBH I'd rather it said "sack the board" or "Kath out"
The new people in with half a brain wouldnt employ Agar. If he goes now, with the current administration we'll only get another'"
TBH that's never going to happen, unless we get a benefactor who doesn't mind losing money like Wire have.
A message (can't think of anything catchy as yet) that suggests the removal of the entire coaching set up would be good though, Agar, Last, Crookes, Pope etc. We need a clean sweep of the lot of them.
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"TBH that's never going to happen, unless we get a benefactor who doesn't mind losing money like Wire have.
A message (can't think of anything catchy as yet) that suggests the removal of the entire coaching set up would be good though, Agar, Last, Crookes, Pope etc. We need a clean sweep of the lot of them.'"
The people at the top employ these
Trust me they will not be loosing money or pumping it in to the club now.
Can u see evidence of this?
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| Quote ="Standee"Explain to me what the point for the protest is?
Being profitable?
Being in 6th after 13 games?
There is no basis for a protest, unless you're going to call it the "We dont like Richard Agar" protest, which is, in a word, pathetic.
I dislike Agar as a coach with a passion, but a protest would do nothing but embarass us as fans.'"
I probably agree that any form of protest unless it involves severely reducing the clubs cashflow would not have any leverage. It could though if done in sufficiently large numbers get the media involved and perhaps make things uncomfortable or awkward for the board which may just influence people a bit.
I don't understand your argument here though , surely it's not where we are now it's the direction we're clearly going in that's the problem. We all can see that it's Agar that is taking us backwards so why is it pathetic to suggest doing something now rather than just waiting in silence and saying I told you so when we finish 12th/13th/14th?
The point of any protest is generally to persuade others of your point of view and/or to embarrass those you're protesting against.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"The FACT about agar is that there is little or no evidence to prove that he is a good coach yet shedloads to the contrary.'"
I spoke to an ex player once, and asked him
"Who was the best coach,you played under?"
He said "Peter Walsh!"
I was shocked, and said "I thought it would be John Monie"
He said "Peter Walsh was brilliant technically,but couldnt get his message across"
Another fallacy, IMHO
How is Agar rated so highly in the game???
This was said by James Rule, that other coaches have said this,
Have they been to an Agar masterclass at training??
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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"The people at the top employ these
Trust me they will not be loosing money or pumping it in to the club now.
Can u see evidence of this?'"
Don't me wrong, Kath and the board have got a lot to answer for with regard to letting Agar stay on this long and even for appointing such a buffoon in the first place. I'm just saying that they run the club as a profitable business and have made substantial loans to the club and take money out of the club to repay those accordingly. Therefore anyone who wished to buy them out would not only have to make them a satisfactory offer for their shareholding but also pay off the loans. The only type of person who would be willing to take such a financial hit would be a wealthy fan who's in it for pleasure like Wire have with Moran.
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