someone mentioned it in an earlier post and i was just commenting on thats what it seemed like to me. thats all...

Which was a pretty stupid thing to say, I reckon.

Exactly. If we can have a positive influence on the club in terms of raising money they are more likely to listen to our members when they have something to say, IMO of course.

Very true, I've had a few dealings with the Wakey ISA at work. They work alongside the club even though they are independant. Someone said that our club is getting a siege mentality, well if this is true all they will do is close ranks if the proposed new group go in all gung ho.

ok

Quite. It's easy to dismiss a 'fun day' as trivial, but if it raises a grand towards something useful, then its worthwhile and generates early positive publicity that the group will need if it is to succeed.

Charity work (for the Steve Prescott fund, for example) is a must too. The more useful the group seems, the more clout it has when it comes to having a say.

Do i sense that we are (maybe) starting to get somewhere?!

we could all go across to you

Ok i think i understand. We need to establish ourselves and the relationship with the club before moving on to more, shall we say, vital points. Is that correct?

Myself and Chewie would be interested in helping with ideas and fund raising and with the Life For a Kid Foundation you could also donate some of the funds raised to the Foundation. so as well as helping the club you can be helping a kids charity

we both have plenty of experience in fund raising and could raise a hell of a lot each year

Plus we have a strong realtionship with ex players association

By no means mate, I could add more value to the organisation than most. What I will not do is become a mere rabble-rouser, the reason HISA failed is because people started to get ideas above their position, but hey, that is life.

I wish everyone involved all success, I still maintain that th current regeime isn't bothered.

What happened to the revolution?

No, no, no. Forget the "vital points". We are not going to change anything, all we (the group) could do is build a better relationship between the cluband the supporters.

Which is what FCVoices are already doing.

Could maybe have a launch day in west park befor a game and turn it into a fund raising day and maybe get the irregulars to play a game aswell.

Im sure weve all got some good ideas for fund raising

Really?

They have meetings with the club occassionally but they do very little else. Look at the RSG and as I say WISCA. They are there to help the club and give the fans a sense of feeling. Both Huddersfield and Warrington have benefitted from squadbuilder funds and I know Batley, Leigh and Widnes all do a similar thing. What do FCVoices give the club?

Sounds very much like a party in the park

Yeah thats the type of thing im on about, am i right in thinking we only have one of them a season though.

I dont see any harm in having a extra one to launch the new group.

Not having one this year AFAIK

kinda tricky on a friday night, and take a lot of organisation.

Does it really have to be before a game?

Obviously it would help but if it was done on say CC semi weekend (I know thats not viable now) maybe more people would be able to afford raffle tickets and alike because they're not forking out money for their admission fee.

the idea was originally, to try and engage with the visting fans aswell. Suppose there is no reason it has to be on a game day, but you'd get a lot more people there I suspect if it was.

A clear agenda is needed .
What are the goals of this group ? What do they hope to acheive ?
Who will Chair the meeting on the 9th?

I doubt that very much. Your incessant p*ssing and moaning, coupled with your narcissistic tendancies would have everyone heading for the exits before it even got started.

I'm lead to believe that Michael Martin is at a loose end these days.

After posting this once, I'll do it again for you as you obviously haven't bothered to read through this thread.


I have made sure that this season, every single disabled person who needed a car parking space in and around the stadium has one, that includes James Rule and his staff giving up their spaces to accomodate more spaces for disabled, but you probably won't have heard about it because there is no hidden agenda behind my position in Voices. The Junior Airlie Birds is also a Voices project, we approached the club about them getting involved. Fans Forums, if it wasn't for Voices you wouldn't have had one at the begining of the year, the group have also got the trains on a match day/evening to stop at stops that it didn't used to as a direct result of the needs of fans, need I go on ..................................................?