Unfortunately its because there are still a large number of people who still think what is being served up week after week is acceptable that things are unlikely to change.
There were people near me clapping the players at the end of the match which I found unbelievable. Applause has to be earned.

Just because we are not bottom of the table at the moment does not mean we are in decline. We need to do something about it now because that is where we are heading.

Supporters who have followed this club for a number of years know we are not in decline, they have been through the hard times.

A top 4 outfit where we should be? No.A club in decline No

2nd, 4th to 11th is a decline, and I very much doubt we'll finish 4th this year to halt that slide

and this shouldent be 'hard times' for the club, its not like we were battling for our existence like we where in the 90s

I must admit anyone who doesn't believe that we as a team are in decline really needs to give their head a bang. We play the most one dimensional game in the league and it doesn't even play to our strengths (although I have to admit I'm not quite sure we actually have any). The squad is wafer thin on quality, the coaching set up is simply abysmal and the board are so far removed from the fans they might as well be on another planet.

I have supported this club for over 40 years and believe me that second half on Saturday was one of the worst, and its not isolated.

I dont think we are on decline, we have just stagnated, while the rest of the division are improving.

Our game plan ( I use the term loosely) is poor and we havew no organisation or leader (on and off the pitch).

We need to change things now before it os too late.

Missing out on the play-offs again when there are 2 more spots would be very disappointing.

Really, and who appointed you as the mouthpiece for said supporters?

Plenty of the people I've known for a long time and have been supporting the club for inexcess of 30 years think we are in decline.

Just look at the table, where are Bradford, Cats, Wigan, Warrington, Cas (wooden spoonlast season). The cap is starting to filter into the game, the competition is tight and so it should be..Any-one is capable of beating any-one on their day, how many teams won at home this week-end, (one of the top of my head).

The hardest part is yes we should be in the top 4 however we are not due to different factors, No Crocker & Lauakai, no Raynor, Motu, Tom Brisocoe , Thornman who is cr@p. And yes the coaches need to start making better decisions. Our position in the table upto the end of last season was in decline however our club is far from in decline and lets see where we finish at the end of this campaign

I've been following for about 25 years, we've had worse than this.

Plenty of people I know have supported AND played for the club for as many years.
Please do not insult me by suggesting I would be a mouthpiece for fans like yourself

I'm not disagreeing, what we haven't had is worse than this for no good reason.

We've had times when we were skint.
We've had times when just about everyone else in the league was genuinely better than us.

What we haven't had, in my memory, is the opportunity to kick on as a club and simply not taken it for reasons other than Rugby League decisions, that is what people mean by decline, it's a decline in ambition and expectation.

If you want to start slinging insults around then I suggest you find someone to spar with that gives a monkies what your opinion is.

I know a fair number of former players that agree we are in decline, you don't agree, which is fair enough. There really is no need to descend this into some playground cat fight.

But we stand a good chance of finishing above 11th, which would technically halt the decline.

The only other occasion that springs to mind was the deliberate dismantling of the 1991 Premiership winning team. That has very close parallels to what has happened over the last few seasons.

The Liverpool teams of the 70s and 80s never rested on their laurels when winning everything.

Whe they won the league they would go out and buy the best players available to keep eveyone on their toes.

I'm not saying we have done that, but as you say, we reached a high level and have just back almost happy with that level instead of kicking on.

There was a reason for that though, Brian Smith had almost bankrupted the club so we had to sell of players to pay off creditors. (One of whom, if I recall correctly, was HMRC?)

You ask who appointed me mouthpiece for fans because I replied to your post with an opinion then tell me I am insulting you

I really have no intention or desire to spar as you put it.

The decline for me relates to the inability to press on, evolve and improve upon what we achieved (cup win and runners up in league). We have, as stated in prev post, rested on our laurels and taken our eye off the ball so to speak.

As Kosh states this has similarities to the 91 side, i hope we don't end up going down that road again!

Our board are like the elders of Troy...we have let the gaurd down allowed the enemy in to the back yard and we are suffering for it! '"

I think it's probably worth pointing out that my view of us being in decline is in no way linked to the success of Hull KR, I don't really care what goes on East of the river, I just want Hull FC to be successful, and we aren't.

Lets face facts, the CC win and CC final appearance have diverted attention from some very poor seasons.

I don't think I ever knew the details, or if I did I've forgotten them. I just remember feeling betrayed at the time as the players we all thought would take us onwards and upwards were shipped out.

in 1991 we never had an A grade licence though

Most all clubs go through various periods of decline.

Thats life.

For me (performance wise) the whole of SL is in decline at the moment.

We did have faithful fans though

Are we, both play better rugby