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| Quote ="fun time frankie"no you were just been a boring friend'"
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Quote ="Sheldon"It's not about money but if it was I'd pay a lot to keep him.'"
So would I. One of the most exciting players in the SL, definitely in our team. He has pure quality and well over 100 SL games, all at the age of 22.'"
If it was a money decision I'd let O'Meley, Galea, Seymour, McDonnell, Holdsworth and Heremaia go to keep him.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"If it was a money decision I'd let O'Meley, Galea, Seymour, McDonnell, Holdsworth and Heremaia go to keep him.'"
and play whom in their positions?
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| Quote ="Standee"and play whom in their positions?'"
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| Quote ="Standee"The problem is, you can't put a value in £/$'s of the opportunity for someone early-mid 20's with no huge family comittments to move to Australia, to do exactly what they're doing now, but where the weather is better, the game is bigger etc. etc.
To sort the salary cap out we need to drop to 12 sustainable teams, we need a governing body that can secure meaningful and valuable sponsorship, and we need Sky to give us something better than Eddie and Stevo commentating, we also need better officials and better run clubs.'"
In Tom`s shoes I would be off as well, as you say the whole Aussie environment can`t be bettered.
By dropping to 12 teams means realistically that London and Catalan have to go?
London cannot be sustained, surely, on their pitiful home attendances and their away following, although both kids are ok, bring nothing to other clubs.
Catalan, whilst boasting fantastic conditions both weather wise and culturaly are expensive and also bring nothing to the away games either.
The time has come to get more ruthless and make some important decisions regarding these clubs. Or are the RFL now looking even further afield at expanding our heartland game into the nether regions?
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| Quote ="The Judge"In Tom`s shoes I would be off as well, as you say the whole Aussie environment can`t be bettered.
By dropping to 12 teams means realistically that London and Catalan have to go?'"
You'd seriously drop one of the competitions best teams?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"If it was a money decision I'd let O'Meley, Galea, Seymour, McDonnell, Holdsworth and Heremaia go to keep him.'"
and that would achieve? don't talk b*llocks he is quality but wingers are an easy fix and if u give them the ball in space they usually finish we have to focus on having the team to put these wingers in the position to score and that comes from the quality in the halves and the pack. and using a big chunk of salary on a winger although he is quality would be criminal imo
sorry for talking sense
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| Quote ="Kosh"You'd seriously drop one of the competitions best teams?'"
I would. And the savings that the RFL make from not funding the Catalans away expenses will go to help the clubs that do bring more to the table.
As far as funding the London team to any extent then I have no knowledge of such but wager that they funded by the RFL.
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| BIG MONEY WASTED ON WINGERS FOR US SHOULD BE A THING OF THE PAST...BEN COCKAYNE DID REALLY WELL FOR WAKEY LAST YEAR AND I BET HE'S ON PEANUTS COMPARED TO BRISCOE.....
LINEHAM IN, BRISCOE OUT...AND SAVE A SHED LOD OF CASH IN THE PROCESS
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| Quote ="lewis_hullfc"Quote ="Sheldon"If it was a money decision I'd let O'Meley, Galea, Seymour, McDonnell, Holdsworth and Heremaia go to keep him.'"
and that would achieve? don't talk b*llocks he is quality but wingers are an easy fix and if u give them the ball in space they usually finish we have to focus on having the team to put these wingers in the position to score and that comes from the quality in the halves and the pack. and using a big chunk of salary on a winger although he is quality would be criminal imo
sorry for talking sense'"
I think your missing my point, I'd try and keep young talented British players than sign overseas players.
If all clubs had have made the same commitment we'd still have Ashton, Tomkins, Eastmond in our game rather than some of the weak overseas players we have now.
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| Broughton back to Hull?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I think your missing my point, I'd try and keep young talented British players than sign overseas players.
If all clubs had have made the same commitment we'd still have Ashton, Tomkins, Eastmond in our game rather than some of the mickey weak overseas players we have now.'"
yep sorry pal missed your point i see were your coming from but its hard to get a good team without signing Aussies and kiwis. young English talent is coming through at only a few teams at the moment if everyone had the spine of the team like Leeds then i see were your coming from. but that will take years for every team to build there team to that level and until that time comes this is how it will be. money talks nowadays and we would never compete with the nrl or union when it comes down to cash unfortunately so if we do lose players there's not much the clubs can do.
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| Quote ="The Judge"I would.'"
Thank feck you have no input then. Utterly bonkers idea.
Quote ="The Judge"And the savings that the RFL make from not funding the Catalans away expenses will go to help the clubs that do bring more to the table.'"
How much would it save, exactly? Or even roughly?
How many clubs bring 'more to the table' than one of the best sides in the competition. And don't start the pointless whining about away fans, either. If cubs can't attract enough home fans to survive then missing out on some away fans for one game a season won't make any difference.
Quote ="The Judge"As far as funding the London team to any extent then I have no knowledge of such but wager that they funded by the RFL.'"
Then you'd be wrong, like the vast majority of flat-cappers.
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| Quote ="The Judge"I would. And the savings that the RFL make from not funding the Catalans away expenses will go to help the clubs that do bring more to the table.
As far as funding the London team to any extent then I have no knowledge of such but wager that they funded by the RFL.'"
And presumably these "away" fans from France and London we dont get would bring in more income than what Sky gives us because its not just an M62 competition?
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| Quote ="Pookie"And presumably these "away" fans from France and London we dont get would bring in more income than what Sky gives us because its not just an M62 competition?'"
shhhhh... some people on here don't deal in reality.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I think your missing my point, I'd try and keep young talented British players than sign overseas players.
If all clubs had have made the same commitment we'd still have Ashton, Tomkins, Eastmond in our game rather than some of the mickey weak overseas players we have now.'"
Protectionism, like all market distortions, tends to have unintended consequences that are often undesirable. Our rules are already pretty restrictive.
The major issue is money, not policy, IMO. Many other professional sports leagues have had to adapt to relative poverty. Dutch and Portugese football for example - they don't get rid of all their imports to hold onto a van Persie or Cristiano Ronaldo. They continue to develop good players, but realise the best will leave. And they have competitive international teams, if that is the concern. Of course, they just leave the country rather than the sport - Briscoe going to the NRL is better than him going to RU at least.
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| Footballs played all over the world RL is played in 3 countries. It also has transfer fees of substance.
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| Quote ="Standee"Quote ="UllFC"I agree, Wing is a 'luxury' position, the finishing touches to a team that already has strong halves, hooker, full back and pack.
Tom's a great player, but we can't throw stupid money in to keeping him when we still don't have a quality no7 after all these years.'"
I was thinking last night, and I can't recall having a real quality 7 at any point we've played at the KC, am I forgetting someone?'"
Tony Smith?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Footballs played all over the world RL is played in 3 countries. It also has transfer fees of substance.'"
It's not a perfect comparator, I admit. On the other hand, [iplayers[/i participating is more meaningful than [icountries[/i. There may only be (Eastern) Australia (and to a much lesser extent NZ, plus France), but the scale there is much bigger than here.
We tried an import ban and it wasn't an unequivocal success by any means.
I want the best league possible not the most British. There is a balance to be struck, so I don't mind the non-fed rule, but in anthing that is meant to be elite, promotion by passport and going into our shell will tend to lead to stagnation and mediocrity.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Tony Smith?'"
We only got one season of him at the KC (or at least I think we did)
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| Quote ="Standee"Quote ="Rock God X"Tony Smith?'"
We only got one season of him at the KC (or at least I think we did)'"
Yeah, but he was the last proper SH we had. Or at least, the last one who played more than a handful of games.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Yeah, but he was the last proper SH we had. Or at least, the last one who played more than a handful of games.'"
I'd be lying if I said I remember him that well, too many since then!
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| Quote ="The Judge"I would. And the savings that the RFL make from not funding the Catalans away expenses will go to help the =#0040FFclubs that do bring more to the table.
As far as funding the London team to any extent then I have no knowledge of such but wager that they funded by the RFL.'"
You'll have to convince me which clubs these are, as IMO London aren't the only team offering less than Catalan to SL. I had my doubts when they first started up, but they've won me over and deserve their place in SL. Anyone who still doesn't think so can only be doing so out of stubbornness.
They have a very good side, play excellent, exciting, skilful RL, produce their own (i.e. French) players, are now promoting their own coach, have a strong home following, and have their games televised every week in France to promote the game. They are entirely fulfilling the reason for their inclusion.
If they aren't the sort of club we want in our game then we're just asking to be consigned to the semi-pro ranks played on a school field watched by a couple of dozen when the weather's ok.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"You'll have to convince me which clubs these are, as IMO London aren't the only team offering less than Catalan to SL. I had my doubts when they first started up, but they've won me over and deserve their place in SL. Anyone who still doesn't think so can only be doing so out of stubbornness.
They have a very good side, play excellent, exciting, skilful RL, produce their own (i.e. French) players, are now promoting their own coach, have a strong home following, and have their games televised every week in France to promote the game. They are entirely fulfilling the reason for their inclusion.
If they aren't the sort of club we want in our game then we're just asking to be consigned to the semi-pro ranks played on a school field watched by a couple of dozen when the weather's ok.'"
Cas, Wakey, KR to name but three.
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