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| [url=http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC-confirm-Lee-Radford-new-head-coach-Adam/story-19843485-detail/story.html"There will be no excuses about this not being my team. Everybody knows expectations of this club and I'm fully aware of them."[/url
Excuse-making, arguable. Goal-post shifting, definitely.
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| Quote ="UllFC"Gentle and their team had many faults, and he wasn't the answer. But this picture that the club keeps trying to build that Radford inherited a disaster of a squad and has had to start from nothing is simply a myth. The team would not have finished 6th if they were that hopeless. The team he got was much better than the one Gentle inherited of Agar for starters. And let's not forget Radford was assistant to Gentle anyway!'"
Pretty much agree, along with the way an 11th place finish under Radford seems to be used as a yardstick for improvement over Gentle.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"No-one from the club has said that, unless you can show otherwise.'"
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| To be fait to Rdford he did inherit a joke squad. Any team with Arundel, Miller etc on big wages would struggle and hes had to weed all these out
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Pretty much agree, along with the way an 11th place finish under Radford seems to be used as a yardstick for improvement over Gentle.'"
Again, not many (if any) has said that, a few have said that Radford has improved us this year from last. If we can finish 6th/7th with a tougher set of fixtures then Radford will have at least matched Gentles league performance.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"To be fait to Rdford he did inherit a joke squad. Any team with Arundel, Miller etc on big wages would struggle and hes had to weed all these out'"
Daryl Powell inherited a far worse squad , than Radford, and lost 2 of his main pivots as well.
Didnt hear him saying - "Not my team".
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| Quote ="Dave K."Again, not many (if any) has said that, a few have said that Radford has improved us this year from last. If we can finish 6th/7th with a tougher set of fixtures then Radford will have at least matched Gentles league performance.'"
Yep and he's saying if he doesn't improve on this year next year he'll be failing.
I agree with him and he'll be got rid of and he knows that.
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| Quote ="weaver93"Daryl Powell inherited a far worse squad , than Radford, and lost 2 of his main pivots as well.
Didnt hear him saying - "Not my team".'"
He's a God is Daryl he doesn't speak.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Yep and he's saying if he doesn't improve on this year next year he'll be failing.
I agree with him and he'll be got rid of and he knows that.'"
He wont be sacked, it'll just be, his contract wont be renewed.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"He's a God is Daryl he doesn't speak.'"
His lass won't let him go shopping to Tescos with her anymore.
He only ever wants 5 loaves and 2 fish.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"His lass won't let him go shopping to Tescos with her anymore.
He only ever wants 5 loaves and 2 fish.'"
Think your getting him mixed up with Daryl Jr...
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| Quote ="barham red"Think your getting him mixed up with Daryl Jr...'"
Like father like son, innit?
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"[url=http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC-confirm-Lee-Radford-new-head-coach-Adam/story-19843485-detail/story.html"There will be no excuses about this not being my team. Everybody knows expectations of this club and I'm fully aware of them."[/url
Excuse-making, arguable. Goal-post shifting, definitely.'"
Excellent point Carl. It's noticeable that no one has attempted to rebut this point.
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| Quote ="Lang Park"Excellent point Carl. It's noticeable that no one has attempted to rebut this point.'"
Noboding is arguing that because it's true, it was a very naive thing to say at the time.
Still a nothing article which doesn't blame gentle and everything Radford had said is true.
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| the sooner Radford clears off the better
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| From an outsider's perspective, Pearson is his own worst enemy in terms of progress. If he didn't chirp up in the HDM year on year saying how Hull either 'will or can do xyz' then he wouldn't be left looking stupid when they fail to deliver.
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| cant see anything wrong with the article,i think with the squad we are getting together we will be better by far, if not Radford will be for the chop,simples
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| Quote ="Dave K."Again, not many (if any) has said that, a few have said that Radford has improved us this year from last. If we can finish 6th/7th with a tougher set of fixtures then Radford will have at least matched Gentles league performance.'"
That is the claim I was getting at, but I worded it badly in a rush. We have persistently been told by Pearson about how Radford is turning the club around, yet for all this club rebuilding he's been doing 2 years on all we can really say with certainty is that we're now less s**t than in his first season. And this after spending a small fortune paying off players who were apparently the root cause of our problems, but would actually almost all be out of contract in a couple of months anyway.
You're right that it hasn't actually been specifically stated, but my personal perception is that Pearson has at times attempted to lay the abominable 2014 season largely at Gentle's door, and thus treat the improvement since as some sort of vindication that Radford is fixing Gentle's mess. So that's where I agree with UllFC, that the situation Radford took over has been overemphasized to how bad it actually was.
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"Clueless'"
Great comeback, well done.
Feel free to add a link showing anyone from the club saying that Radford inherited a "disaster of a squad and has had to start from nothing".
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Great comeback, well done.
Feel free to add a link showing anyone from the club saying that Radford inherited a "disaster of a squad and has had to start from nothing".'"
Thanks, but it doesn't take a genius to work out that's what they've implied for 2 years now, at least he'll finally have is squad next season. Lets see how that works out. Not been funny, but I reckon every single person on this forum could have done as good, if not better job than Radford with the resources he's had. He should do better next season , with the way the squads looking, how much better remains to be seen
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"Thanks, but it doesn't take a genius to work out that's what they've implied for 2 years now, at least he'll finally have is squad next season. Lets see how that works out. Not been funny, but I reckon every single person on this forum could have done as good, if not better job than Radford with the resources he's had. He should do better next season , with the way the squads looking, how much better remains to be seen'"
OK so you can't find such a link. In that case show me a link quoting any coach ever, saying he has weakened a squad since taking over a club.
There are certainly plenty of wannabee coaches on here, I'll grant you.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"OK so you can't find such a link. In that case show me a link quoting any coach ever, saying he has weakened a squad since taking over a club.
There are certainly plenty of wannabee coaches on here, I'll grant you.'"
Are you smoking crack, do you honestly not think, pearson and Radford have not blamed the previous regime for the past 2 seasons absolute poop?
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"Are you smoking crack, do you honestly not think, pearson and Radford have not blamed the previous regime for the past 2 seasons absolute poop?'"
Can you not comprehend English?
Of course they have claimed the squad is stronger, as every coach does.
I've asked you and UllFC where they said Radford inherited a "disaster of a squad and has had to start from nothing".
They didn't, it's just typical of the OTT rubbish posted on here.
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| This article was unnecessary and unhelpful.
It has provoked a negative reaction on here and probably moans of "heard it all before" from fans who don't read this board.
There was no need for it at all.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Great comeback, well done.
Feel free to add a link showing anyone from the club saying that Radford inherited a "disaster of a squad and has had to start from nothing".'"
Correct me if iam wrong,but didn't radford inherit a team that finished 6th and reached a challenge cup final,hardly a train wreck.
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