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| Think we should make this a really positive thread then Wigan might take him
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| They're all rubbish
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| Credit to the Leeds fans, they're on the case with demanding McDermott out and suggesting Noble in pretty quickly. So we now have Wigan, Huddersfield and probably Leeds all in the market for a coach. Cracking stuff.
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| What I still don`t get is players signing seem to be impressed by Agar.They don`t have to say so.Even Gleeson has said it.
Long in his book stated he was impressed by him.If he came here just for the cash he didn`t need to make that statement.
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Agar."Why do you want to come to Hull Martin?"
Gleeson. "My mate Longy is here."
Agar."Ah,o.k., sign here."
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Credit to the Leeds fans, they're on the case with demanding McDermott out and suggesting Noble in pretty quickly. So we now have Wigan, Huddersfield and probably Leeds all in the market for a coach. Cracking stuff.'"
I have no concerns that we'll trump them all to the best available coach should we actually get round to binning agar
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Credit to the Leeds fans, they're on the case with demanding McDermott out and suggesting Noble in pretty quickly. So we now have Wigan, Huddersfield and probably Leeds all in the market for a coach. Cracking stuff.'"
Kath - Gary, the Hull fans are screaming for Agar's head. I'm getting sick of it now. But if he goes we'll still have to pay him for the rest of the season and next.
Gary - Don't be stupid, sit tight. He'll scrape a couple of games and we can get Gleeson at a knock down price. That'll subdue them again.
Kath - Well our Leeds fans are impatient after 5 poor games.
Gary - But we're Leeds, we've got a big card up our sleeves already.
Kath - (sigh) Well, can't we have Brian?
Gary - Well, we have to pay him anyway, so you can have him as well. Two coaches, they can't moan then...
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| Quote ="barton baird"What I still don`t get is players signing seem to be impressed by Agar.They don`t have to say so.Even Gleeson has said it.
Long in his book stated he was impressed by him.If he came here just for the cash he didn`t need to make that statement.
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Agar."Why do you want to come to Hull Martin?"
Gleeson. "My mate Longy is here."
Agar."Ah,o.k., sign here."'"
It's all rhetoric like great fans, great stadium. they're hardly going to come out and say they signed for the club who offered them 4 grand a year more than the next highest bidder are they
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"It's all rhetoric like [great fans, great stadium. they're hardly going to come out and say they signed for the club who offered them 4 grand a year more than the next highest bidder are they'"
Both true is it not?
No they are not going to say they came to the highest bidder,but they also arn`t obliged to say the things they do about Agar.Not defending it either way,just interested why it is so.
Lets be honest Jake,if Agar fed the crowd with three loaves and six fishes,you would still be unimpressed.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"McDermott - taken Leeds backwards at a stunning pace
Rob Powell - bit early to tell?
Kear - good for the cup, but massively inconsistent
Harris - taken play-off contenders to the bottom of the table.
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I wouldnt want any of the above to take us forward but i think noble is the best superleague coach (if he had a team to coach)
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| McDermott's thoughts on Leeds defeat:"I'm not confident in much at the moment, but what I am confident of is that there are a group of people there that are in a place they don't want to be. They've got a massive work rate and great effort, and it's puzzling because it's just not happening on game day."
Christ, makes Agar sound utterly inspirational.
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| As far as the Agar saga goes,I am like Roger Waters.
Comfortably numb.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"McDermott's thoughts on Leeds defeat:"I'm not confident in much at the moment, but what I am confident of is that there are a group of people there that are in a place they don't want to be. They've got a massive work rate and great effort, and it's puzzling because it's just not happening on game day."
Christ, makes Agar sound utterly inspirational.
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Sounds like an agar quote to me...are we all just misled? The players love him..new signings love him..the board love him?? Give me an awsome performance in france and i might just love him!!
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"McDermott - taken Leeds backwards at a stunning pace
Rob Powell - bit early to tell?
Kear - good for the cup, but massively inconsistent
Harris - taken play-off contenders to the bottom of the table.
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Agar has lost to McDermott and Kear, and won against Powell and Harris.
Only Crusaders are below us in the league.
(on paper) Agar has much better players and club at his disposal then Kear, Powell and Harris.
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| Quote ="Isaiah"Agar has lost to McDermott and Kear, and won against Powell and Harris.
Only Crusaders are below us in the league.
(on paper) Agar has much better players and club at his disposal then Kear, Powell and Harris.'"
And players like Ogre leap to his defence.Strange old world isn`t it?
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| Agar must have something about him that doesn't come across in interviews etc. A mate of mine was talking to Craig Hall not long back and apparantly even he didn't really have a bad word to say about Agar, which, given how he seemed to be treated, surprised me a bit. From what I hear from various people who know a bit more about what goes on at the club Agar does seem very clued up about the game, who knows, it might just be that it's the players fault afterall.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"It's all rhetoric like great fans, great stadium. they're hardly going to come out and say they signed for the club who offered them 4 grand a year more than the next highest bidder are they'"
Gleeson I'm sure must've turned down bigger offers due to our cap being almost full and others having space to be able to offer more. So there must be something else, possibly Longy, possibly he sees the potential of the squad we have now?
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| Quote ="barton baird"Both true is it not?
No they are not going to say they came to the highest bidder,but they also arn`t obliged to say the things they do about Agar.Not defending it either way,just interested why it is so.
Lets be honest Jake,if Agar fed the crowd with three loaves and six fishes,you would still be unimpressed.'"
I'd be furious, I don't like fish.
As for the rest, player X signs for new club and gets asked why. What is he going to say? Particularly when said coach is under pressure. Seems like the natural thing to say to immediately ingratiate yourself. What is more telling to me is that they all say it but there is no evidence agar actually knows what he's doing so either they're making it up or he talks a good story but doesn't back it up with his actions
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| Quote ="Dibs XIII"Gleeson I'm sure must've turned down bigger offers due to our cap being almost full and others having space to be able to offer more. So there must be something else, possibly Longy, possibly he sees the potential of the squad we have now?'"
If his UK choice was us or wakefield then it wasn't much of a choice was it? Can't see any aussie clubs offering him big money
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"If his UK choice was us or wakefield then it wasn't much of a choice was it? Can't see any aussie clubs offering him big money'"
A year at Wakey on a higher wage and put yourself in the shop window, would have been a stand out player in Wakey's squad and could have possibly got himself a good deal at another SL club for the following year, possibly even Widnes, this would have meant him being closer to home.
Like you say Jake, we never know the real reasons why people sign, yes the first is probably ££££ but there are sometimes other things that players take into consideration before deciding whether to sign for a club or not - was it Sinfield who said that some of The Leeds squad could get better contracts elsewhere but wanted to stay to be part of a winning squad?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"They're all rubbish'"
You were talking about the coaches yeah, not the mods
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| Quote ="Dibs XIII"A year at Wakey on a higher wage and put yourself in the shop window, would have been a stand out player in Wakey's squad and could have possibly got himself a good deal at another SL club for the following year, possibly even Widnes, this would have meant him being closer to home.
Like you say Jake, we never know the real reasons why people sign, yes the first is probably ££££ but there are sometimes other things that players take into consideration before deciding whether to sign for a club or not - was it Sinfield who said that some of The Leeds squad could get better contracts elsewhere but wanted to stay to be part of a winning squad?'"
18 or so games at wakey, in front of pitiful crowds, in the worst stadium in SL, getting beat most weeks and spending most of that time looking for another club. Sounds appealing
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| Quote ="PAUL M"You were talking about the coaches yeah, not the mods
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No, the mods are all great
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"18 or so games at wakey, in front of pitiful crowds, in the worst stadium in SL, getting beat most weeks and spending most of that time looking for another club. Sounds appealing'"
As we keep being told by The Agar Out brigade, short term pain for long term gain!!
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"No, the mods are all great
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