A few of the players were commenting on Jordan Turner and how impressive he was looking. In fact, Ben Cooper and Andy Last actually said that he was looking like the best and most improved player of preseason so far!!

That was also said last season.....

I don't think it was to be honest!! IIRC the club just said he was benefitting from a full preseason with the club!!

1. Hame, he is going to really rock next season I hope he is just as mental as well



2. Westerman, he will relish the new challenges this squad will provide him with

3. Young Willie, I reckon this kid will score for fun down the wing.

4.Turner, I think he will carry on with his development and have a very good season.

As usual I expect to see the usual standard from the king of cover Whiting, and also hope to see the same standard of performance from Sir Fitz and Orgre....

Oh and the main man Manu

...he will be awesome

If Manu developed a passing game he'd be the best 2nd row in the league imo. In fact, if our whole left side had a passing game we'd be almost unstoppable down that side.
I hope a lot of pre season is spent speeding up our ptb and getting the ball wider, quicker to our 2nd rowers, also getting our halves on the same side and our backs deeper allowing Tansey to come into the line more.

I thought it was to Panda92, he was getting rave reviews!



Whats this development your talking about, he has been playing first team rugby and at SL standard now for a good while, he aint fresh out of the academy!

Players stop developing when they reach a Super League first team?

No your right of course, I just generally dont talk about established first team/SL players as needing developing, especially at his age. You would have thought by now he has all the skills he is capable of learning at this stage of his career.

At least we know what standard Craig Hall will be next season then!

Have Ben Cockayne and Scott Murrell not developed in the last couple of seasons in your opinion? Or Welham coming into your side as a 21year old and Turner being 21 himself currently??

He is 21! Of corse he he won't have all the skills!

Not so sure tbh, both have come on as I expected, same as Welham.

So they have or haven't developed after breaking into a first team of SL? Or do they have all the skills they are capable of learning?

I'm not denying that. But you said that players no longer develop when they play first team at Superleague level. And now you are saying they have developed as you expected.

Just as we are saying we expect Jordan Turner to develop further next season and beyond!!

They have come on? As in they have developed?



Players should develop facets of their game right through to retirement shouldnt they or are they all perfect once at SL level.

Did I? I dont think I said that pal.

I didnt say developed, I think they have progressed nicely due to the experience gained and not necessarily progressed with their skills e.g. we always knew Murrell had a very good passing and kicking game, it didn't need developing(as you say).

Progressed nicely? Experience gained? That is development!

development n. - act of improving by expanding or enlarging or refining.

Ok pal.

Well anyhow, to me I'm not sure how much more development(skills wise)you are going to see from Turner, the lad needs regular games which he is not guaranteed. Suppose we will see how good he is if he manages to secure a starting spot in the centres.

Develop
Definition: grow, progress, unfold, or evolve through a process of evolution, natural growth, differentiation, or a conducive environment; "A flower developed on the branch"; "The country developed into a mighty superpower"; "The embryo develops into a fetus"

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So you have now condemned Craig Hall, for example, to complete failure. He has played over 70 first grade Superleague games and not progressed/developed. What a poor signing on that basis.

Impress..

Moa, Houghton, O'Meley

I thought the levels of consistency from all three was impressive last year, Moa and Houghton should only do better with more game time.

Fail to impress..

Tansey, Westerman, Lauaki

I hope I'm wrong but I think Tansey and Westerman could be terrible influences on each other. I like Lauaki on his good days but his tackling technique for a forward is appalling!

Has had his failings in the past, all be it mostly defensive but playing out of position half the time didn't/wont have helped. With some confidence in him I think he will do well for when he gets his chance.

I agree with all that..our ptb frustates me, however let us not forget how inconsistent the ref are in this area, do you remember I think it was the Wakey game

...we kept getting penalised for not playing it, then the next week a team was on sky did the same and were not penalised



I would like to see the ball move a lot more I believe this is down to our ball players, if we can manage to get Westy, Tansey, Horney and Longy on the pitch together I believe we will see some very tasty rugby.

Need a massive massive season off Horne and Long so my answer is Horne and Long, I hope they impress a lot of people this season and prove a lot of people wrong too. Fitz and Ogre will be better for having a year here as will Hame, just hope he has learnt from a full season here, use his aggression but at the same time use his noggin abit more. Whiting is just Whiting, were ever he plays he will give 100% as will Moa. Tansey IMO needs a big season.