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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"No kidding
The fact remains he has played for Scotland.....So theoretically if he played for England there would be no difference if Manu did..'"
Apart from the fact he was actually English...
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| Think its wrong myself. Seeing Faasavalu playing for England is plain wrong. Also seeing Henry Paul, Vainakolo and now Shontaine Hape playing for England RU is a joke too.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Are you being serious?'"
NO!!!
I am not discussing Great Britain representation am I...ENGLAND and SCOTLAND are 2 different teams....the same as the bleedin TONGANS
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| To be honest with you i've always thought you should only ever be able to represent the country of your birth in whatever sport you play and it can only be reviewed in exceptional circumstances. None of this residency or Grandparent/Parent messing about
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| Henry Paul was a kiwi until he started to play union!
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"To be honest with you i've always thought you should only ever be able to represent the country of your birth in whatever sport you play and it can only be reviewed in exceptional circumstances. None of this residency or Grandparent/Parent messing about'"
Maybe so...but the thing is the bar has now being set and players do represent different countries, so imo Manu should be considered if he now qualifies.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Maybe so...but the thing is the bar has now being set and players do represent different countries, so imo Manu should be considered if he now qualifies.'"
It shouldn't happen and not because he plays for Hull either. Clint Newton is the same and i wouldn't want him considered for selection either.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"It shouldn't happen and not because he plays for Hull either. Clint Newton is the same and i wouldn't want him considered for selection either.'"
I do not necessarily disagree...but the fact remains it is happening..will be interesting to see if he is in with a shout as he has been outstanding so far this season.
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| George Fairbairn won caps for England. It's nothing new.
As barriers of geography and language fall, it'll happen more.
I suspect a sense of civic identity will outlast the national.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"George Fairbairn won caps for England. It's nothing new.
As barriers of geography and language fall, it'll happen more.
I suspect a sense of civic identity will outlast the national.'"
Tis the affect of Globalisation which is upon us in every area of our lifes
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"It shouldn't happen and not because he plays for Hull either. Clint Newton is the same and i wouldn't want him considered for selection either.'"
thought newton could only play for the USA or australia?? saying that tho...at least 5/6 of your squad can play for who the hell they like.... especially when it comes to new contracts and passports
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| There's an Aussie backrower about to make himself available for England after being ignored by Aussie selectors, can't recall his name, where's Sheldon when you need him.
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| Quote ="Digby"There's an Aussie backrower about to make himself available for England after being ignored by Aussie selectors, can't recall his name, where's Sheldon when you need him.'"
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| Quote ="hullandbroncos"Chris heightington? not sure on spelling'"
That's the fella, cheers.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"To be honest with you i've always thought you should only ever be able to represent the country of your birth in whatever sport you play and it can only be reviewed in exceptional circumstances. None of this residency or Grandparent/Parent messing about'"
totally agree with you philb, its a load of bollox this residency/grandparents/friends/mothers cousin lark, when you start messing about letting overseas players play for GB makes a mockery of the game!
I think Manu is a class player, but seeing him in a England shirt, would be just wrong!!
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Tis the affect of Globalisation which is upon us in every area of our lifes
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You are dead right the Prime Minister of Australia is Welsh! - Oh and a woman to boot
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| Quote ="Digby"There's an Aussie backrower about to make himself available for England after being ignored by Aussie selectors, can't recall his name, where's Sheldon when you need him.'"
This is the thing that really sticks in my throat about it all. Besides the issue of whether or not it should be allowed, in many cases people ignore the reasons as to why the players want to do so in the first place. Often it's because they are being ignored by their main country. It's insulting IMO, and how on Earth feeding from cast-offs will help close the gap is beyond me.
I'm personally against it anyway, even if it would be for someone as good as Manu.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"I agree, just because he's eligible doesn't mean he should. Leave this nonsense to other sports IMO.'"
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| Manu strikes me as a very proud Tongan. I'd be surprised if he wanted to play for England.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Just read in Fitz column that Manu qualifies to play for England'"
Will he replace Rooney or Lampard?
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| didnt Jarryd Hayne represent Fiji and is now a regular for Australia and state of origin. If someone is good enough and qualifies to play let them whats the point in missing out on a player (not just Manu anyone) Austrailia and New Zealand do it. I think the Quota system is all wrong anyway what with all the loop holes they should just say 17 of the top 25 earners in your squad (salary cap) should qualify for great britain
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| Love Manu but it's a no for me. That said the coach should exploit every opportunity he can, the aussies do.
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| What's the difference between Manu and Fa'asavulu?
If Macca wants to pick him and he improves the national side then why not.
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| Quote ="TKOAH"What's the difference between Manu and Fa'asavulu?
If Macca wants to pick him and he improves the national side then why not.'"
That is my point...whether it is right or wrong the bar has been set, so manu should be considered.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"That is my point...whether it is right or wrong the bar has been set, so manu should be considered.'"
Our game is a laughing stock at international level already imo. I dont agree with what the RFL have done already and wont agree if Manu gets a call up.
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