I think Orr might be worth a go for 1 year, I just can't see Long playing much next season.

apart from that McCarthy-Scarsbrook (the club will love the extra revenue from the club shop lettering!!) Fa'asavalu and Coley would be better than retaining Dowes/Radford at prop.

I'd take Owen, Shenton, Liam Watts, Tony Clubb and Mccarthy-Scarsbrook.

Still think we need a halfback Dave, thought about Orr, but now seeing Matty Smith if OOC he would be the one I went for.

I just think with Horne, Long, Turner, Whiting, Washy, Nicklas, Tansey we should have more than enough cover. You couldnt carry Matty Smith for example as a spare player in case of injury. No side can afford to imo.

Wouldnt disagree with any of those players BDT!

First time for everything!!

I would take Westerman as well if Cas want rid.

Nah not good enough.

Clubb is the worst defender in SL this season.

There's a list getting put together on the VT but I thought I'd start one one here to see who Hull FC fans would like.

Bradford Bulls

Rikki Sheriffe
Paul Sykes
Chris Nero (quota)
Stuart Reardon
Steve Menzies (quota)
Jamie Langley
Michael Worrincy
Steve Crossley

Castleford Tigers

Richard Owen
Michael Shenton
Michael Wainwright
Brent Sherwin (quota)
Mitchell Sargent (quota)
Liam Higgins
Ryan Clayton
Kirk Netherton
Jonathan Walker
Joe Arundel

Crusaders

Harlequins

Bryan, Lamont
Clubb, Tony (has 2011 option)
Dorn, Luke (overseas quota)
Esders, Ryan
Jones, Ben
May, Luke
McCarthy-Scarsbrook, Louie
Orr, Danny
Sharp, Will
Temata, Karl
Ward, Danny
Williams, David
Williamson, Luke (overseas quota)

Huddersfield Giants

P. Whatuira (quota)
S. Wild
M. Aspinwall
B. Drew (quota)
J. Griffin
J. MacGillvary
A. Brown
G. Horne

Hull FC

Calderwood
Dowes
Radford
Tickle
Fitzgibbon (quota) 2011 option
Manu
Cusack (quota)
Houghton
Whiting
Hall
Kent
Tuffour

Hull KR

Colbon
Webster (quota)
Walker
I'anson
Mills
Lovegrove (quota if he leaves hkr)
Wheeldon
Watts
Galea (quota)

Les Catalans

Leeds Rhinos

Scott Donald (quota)
Keith Senior
Danny Buderus (quota)
Ali Lauitiiti (quota)
Matt Diskin
Ryan Bailey
Luke Ambler
Simon Worrall


St Helens

Meli (quota)
Flannery (quota)
Fozzard
Gidley (quota)
Cunningham
Wellens
Fa'asavalu
Hargreaves
Smith


Salford City Reds

Wakefield Trinity Wildcats


Warrington Wolves

Chris Hicks (quota)
Mike Cooper
David Solomona (quota)
Vinnie Anderson (quota)
Matty Blythe


Wigan Warriors

Phil Bailey (quota)
George Carmont (quota)
Andy Coley
Cameron Phelps (quota)
Stuart Fielden
Paul Prescott
Harrison Hansen
Karl Pryce
Mike McIlorum
Paul Deacon
Iafeta Paleaasina (quota)
Darrell Goulding

There are a few mouth watering names on that list that I would love to see in an FC shirt - doubt uncle Kath would spend the money to get some of them names at Hull though

Looks pretty bleak in my opinion, we are quite lot of quality away from a top four side and although there are a few decent players ooc, nothing back or ball handler wise that would make a big difference, and with no quota place available we wont be recruiting anyone of note.

cheer up buddy.

As i have siad previous i dotn think we a lot away from being a top 4 side, having a regular halfback partnership and a top centre and another winger (or Calderwood fit) would make a huge difference.

If we could sign another prop, centre and backup half back we should be in the top four IMO.

I think someone we have to make a quota place available and sign a centre of halfback.

Not sure how this could be done, the other option is to sign another hooker and play Berrigan at centre. That is what I would look at doing.

This team would challenge for a top 4 position IMO.

Tansey
Calderwood
Berrigan
Yeaman
Briscoe
Horne
Long
O Meley
Mcshane
Dowes
Fitzgibbon
Manu
Whiting

Houghton
LMS
Lauaki
Moa

I back up halfback like Orr, Gale, Mcnally would be needed though.

Bradford Bulls

Rikki Sheriffe

Castleford Tigers

Richard Owen
Michael Shenton

Harlequins

Bryan, Lamont
McCarthy-Scarsbrook, Louie
Orr, Danny
Sharp, Will

Huddersfield Giants

M. Aspinwall

Hull KR

Colbon
Wheeldon
Watts

Leeds Rhinos

Matt Diskin

St Helens

Hargreaves
Smith

Wakefield Trinity Wildcats

Aaron Murphy

Warrington Wolves

Mike Cooper

Wigan Warriors

Andy Coley
Stuart Fielden
Paul Prescott
Darrell Goulding

out of those players I'd want to see

A winger or two depending on calderwood
a back up half back
two props
a centre or a hooker, not both

signed

Wouldnt sign Wheeldon personally.

Winger =Owen
Halfback = Smith
Props = LMS and Watts
Hooker or centre =Diskin or Shenton

That would be the best situation IMO.

just a list of options tbh dave.

Depending on Owens fitness I agree, it would be great to sign those.

Just to let you all know Aaron Murphy isn't out of contract, got until 2011 at Wakefield.

OUT :

Radford
Dowes
Cusack
Washbrook
Berrigan
Hall
Tickle (if he leaves)

IN :

Langley
LMS
Fa'asavalu
Westerman
Orr
Owen
Wild

Not even a full overseas quota !!

And a squad to challenge the top !

so paul cooke isnt out of contract at wakefield this season then

who i would go for

Bradford Bulls

Rikki Sheriffe
Paul Sykes

Castleford Tigers

Richard Owen
Michael Shenton

Harlequins

Ryan Esders
McCarthy-Scarsbrook, Louie


Huddersfield Giants

S. Wild
M. Aspinwall

Leeds Rhinos

Matt Diskin

Wigan Warriors

Andy Coley
Mike McIlorum

I'd get rid of:

dowes
radford
calderwood (always injured)
cusack (retiring anyway)
fitz (missing too many matches for me plus frees up a quota spot)

We'll lose tickle plus have raynor's and king's salaries to spend so would expect that would leave us with between £400-500k to spend on a couple of props, one back rower, 2 wingers and a back up half back. We should be able to balance the squad better and get rid of some of the donkeys in the pack

Plus we'll lose tickle and already have

Take out Danny Orr and use our last quota sopt on Rangi Chase and that would be a result !!!

Would be the only ones I'd be interested in, with the names in bold full-blown targets.

I think the following are worth a punt although some namely Pryce would have to be on a suitable deal with salary to be low with higher apperances bonus?

Richard Owen
Michael Shenton
McCarthy-Scarsbrook, Louie
Watts
Colbon
Hargreaves
Paul Prescott
Karl Pryce

if we could get who ever we wanted from the list of available players i'd do this

Radford replace with Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook
Cusack replace with Paul Prescott
Calderwood replace with Darrell Goulding or Richard Owen

Tickle if he goes replace with Jamie Langley
Fitzgibbon if he goes replace with Steve Wild, joe westerman or radders

Manu PLEASE KEEP

Houghton keep
Hall keep
Dowes keep

Kent not seen enough to judge if warranted give another year
Tuffour not seen enough to judge if warranted give another year

should leave us with some cash and a quota space to find a right centre (or halfback) ideally under 30 with SOO experience
is Gasnier bored of union yet???