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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"I listened to the game on Five Live Sports Extra which was balanced and unbiased. More people are able to listen to a commentary and form an opinion based on what they hear, surely?'"
i am going to try five live next time, some positive feedback on here after last night..
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Too many missed tackles in defense. Their tries seemed too easy.'"
Agreed we did miss a lot of tackles but I wouldn't solely blame the backs as some have done. We lacked intensity up front and allowed their playmakers the freedom of the park from inside to out. We did fatigue mind which is hardly surprising given the colossal amount of possession and field position they had as a result of a horrendous penalty count against us. We didn't force a single repeat set in the match as far as I know which says much about where we had the ball on the field. Disappointed that we didn't change our right edge defensive structure to try and combat the long cut out ball.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"i am going to try five live next time, some positive feedback on here after last night..'"
Was good. The main commentator was unbiased and Morely added some good summarising. Much better than Blunderside IMO. Or KCFM for that matter.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"I listened to the game on Five Live Sports Extra which was balanced and unbiased. Most people are able to listen to a commentary and form an opinion based on what they hear, surely?'"
It doesn't matter if it is biased or not. You are being told what went on, rather than watching and forming your own opinion.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Too many missed tackles in defense. Their tries seemed too easy.'"
It wasn't so much the missed tackles (although there were plenty). It was the "not near enough to" tackles. The wings were being pulled in to the centre of the pitch and Wigan were running riot down either side with long balls cutting out the entire defensive line.
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| Quote ="Chris28"It wasn't so much the missed tackles (although there were plenty). It was the "not near enough to" tackles. The wings were being pulled in to the centre of the pitch and Wigan were running riot down either side with long balls cutting out the entire defensive line.'"
It was too easy for them. Hey ho, move on. Backwards and downward or onwards and up. One of the two!
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Too many missed tackles in defense. Their tries seemed too easy.'"
Our 2nd of the night for Darrell Goulding would have had me tearing my hair out as a Hull FC fan tbh. He picked up a loose pass from the ground, span past the first defender and basically ran in a straight line for about 15m with no Hull defender reacting.
After the first 15-20mins last night I thought we'd get beat tbh because I thought your pack looked very good but a mixture of bad discipline and some concentration lapses let the game run away before half time.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Our 2nd of the night for Darrell Goulding would have had me tearing my hair out as a Hull FC fan tbh. He picked up a loose pass from the ground, span past the first defender and basically ran in a straight line for about 15m with no Hull defender reacting.
After the first 15-20mins last night I thought we'd get beat tbh because I thought your pack looked very good but a mixture of bad discipline, [uatrocious tackling[/u and some concentration lapses let the game run away before half time.'"
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| Went to the game last night.
On reflection, our dicipline killed us. Match that with having no recognised winger in the team and Wigan took major advantage. Wigan were good, and desrved the victory. They cut inside at every given opportunity and ran rings around our defence. The majority of the players had a bad game but I have to single out both Hall and Tansey. Hall defensive and potitional play was poor and was caught out a number of times down that right hand side. Tansey had a poor game also, and his failure to find touch from a penalty not once, but twice, summed up our game.
Long, in the first half, never put a long kick in. Tactical? Or still not fully fit? If it's the latter, why was he playing?? If the excuse was that he would have a 'big game' because he was playing against former employers, why wasn't Calderwood playing??
Overall a disappointing showing, but I wonder what the outcome would have been in Whiting and taken that ball to take us to 12 all. May have given FC a boost, but it's all ifs and buts. Horne, once again was FC's best, and it looks like he is finding his old form again.
Bring on Bradford.
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| Just back this morning, upon reflection heres how I see it.
wide out we looked amateur at best and were undone by the wings being sucked in over and over.
Our sliding defence was almost non existent.
Man on Man we pretty much lost the battle up front as coley and feilden had a blinder.
Long clearly wasnt fit.
Horne was outstanding
in all we got what we deserved on the night against a champion looking side to be fair!!
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"sleepy.gif
Not that old chestnut. People who listen on the radio have every right to voice an opinion.'"
Are you being serious ?
You really think you can have a good opinion on something you didn't even see ??
On that note I'm going to say EastEnders was awful the other night and that new neighbour is stunning....even though I ain't seen them
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Our 2nd of the night for Darrell Goulding would have had me tearing my hair out as a Hull FC fan tbh. He picked up a loose pass from the ground, span past the first defender and basically ran in a straight line for about 15m with no Hull defender reacting.
After the first 15-20mins last night I thought we'd get beat tbh because I thought your pack looked very good but a mixture of bad discipline and some concentration lapses let the game run away before half time.'"
The one that got me was Roberts try before HT, not only was that on the back of Tansey failing to find touch but we had three players around Roberts and none reacted to the ball.
Briscoe for me is becoming a liability.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Are you being serious ?
You really think you can have a good opinion on something you didn't even see ??
On that note I'm going to say EastEnders was awful the other night and that new neighbour is stunning....even though I ain't seen them'"
Pathetic analogies.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"The one that got me was Roberts try before HT, not only was that on the back of Tansey failing to find touch but we had three players around Roberts and none reacted to the ball.
Briscoe for me is becoming a liability.'"
Been saying that about Briscoe all season...going to be a hell of a player but postional play is awful.........The more i look at it..the Moa re-signing is looking a wasted one...could have got a winger in if we knwe we was going to be light.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Pathetic analogies.'"
Why?
I was at work last night and didnt even listen to it on radio...got the last 10mins on one of the girls mobiles and she kept telling me the score.....so i dont comment on match as i didnt go and the match thread is bolloxs as well...how can you get a reflection of the game without seeing it.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Pathetic analogies.'"
No, I think you'll find yours are.
You can not have an opinion on something you didn't see.
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| You can get a decent idea what is going on via commentary IF!!!!! the commentary is factual and unbiased. However there of course is no substitue for being there.
But to dismiss someones thoughts because they could only listen is ridiculous.
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| tbf to Briscoe it was a horrible bounce. It was his all the way and it bounced right over his head and into Roberts' arms.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"tbf to Briscoe it was a horrible bounce. It was his all the way and it bounced right over his head and into Roberts' arms.'"
Agreed it bounced to perfection from a Wigan POV, still think it should have being dealt with prior to the bounce though.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"The one that got me was Roberts try before HT, not only was that on the back of Tansey failing to find touch but we had three players around Roberts and none reacted to the ball.
Briscoe for me is becoming a liability.'"
Yeah it was really poorly defended by everyone involved. However the try in the 2nd half were the ball was kicked to the wing and then kicked back inside left me fuming, not one single Hull player reacted to either kick. By the time Wigan collected the ball to score it appeared to me that almost every single Wigan player was closer to our tryline than any of ours. In fact we just stood and watched it was pathetic.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Agreed it bounced to perfection from a Wigan POV, still think it should have being dealt with prior to the bounce though.'"
Correct it should have.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"No, I think you'll find yours are.
You can not have an opinion on something you didn't see.'"
I never made any analogies.
Quote ="fc baldy"Why?
I was at work last night and didnt even listen to it on radio...got the last 10mins on one of the girls mobiles and she kept telling me the score.....so i dont comment on match as i didnt go and the match thread is bolloxs as well...how can you get a reflection of the game without seeing it.'"
pmarrow said judging a team's performance based on a listening to a commentary on it is like judging a TV programme you haven't seen. That is a pathetic analogy.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"I never made any analogies.
pmarrow said judging a team's performance based on a listening to a commentary on it is like judging a TV programme you haven't seen. That is a pathetic analogy.'"
Not really....
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"I never made any analogies.
pmarrow said judging a team's performance based on a listening to a commentary on it is like judging a TV programme you haven't seen. That is a pathetic analogy.'"
Id say he wasnt that far off.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Id say he wasnt that far off.'"
Disagree mate.
If you haven't watched a TV programme you have no idea what happened.
If you have listened to a match commentary, whilst clearly you cannot form as clear an opinion as if you have actually seen the game, you have a good idea of how the team and individuals performed. Particularly if the commentary is unbiased as the Five Live was last night.
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