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| Quote ="Stan Butler"Often find that promoting from within isn't always the best answer, fresh blood needed from top to bottom.'"
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"gary hetherington has more of a say financially than what people think.him and kath put their initial investment in for a reason-they knew they would get it back with extra bonuses.i think you will find when the next financial figures are released,they will have taken some,not all,of that half a million for themselves.but,really,who can blame them?they put their cash in when nobody else offered,and that meant that we have a club to 'support' today.maybe we ought to 'employ' gary to replace jimmy!'"
First highlighted point = absolute tosh
Second highlighted point - can you let me know how you will be able to tell this from the next set of financial figure which Hull release, as I am fooked if I know where you would find it on a set of abbreviated accounts. Also, come to think of it, a set of abbreviateds doesn't include Directors remuneration (Mrs H) and on the basis there is an accumulated loss and the company cannot pay dividends (to shareholders like Mr H), it would appear you are talking out of your anus
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"But the directors are "using the club as a cash cow", MMJ.
2% over base rate on loans plus zero dividend = bugger all return on their investment IMO. An inconvenient truth
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Depends if they're paying themselves inflated salaries to be fair'"
If they were all paying themselves inflated salaries, how would we be turning in profits for 4 consecutive years which no other club bar Leeds has done?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"If they were all paying themselves inflated salaries, how would we be turning in profits for 4 consecutive years which no other club bar Leeds has done?'"
Impossible to say without seeing a detailed set of accounts. Maybe they're saving a packet on the coaching set up
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| Quote ="The Brother"Don't need to give you any source but take it from me it's correct
So even if Crocker N Luakai had come this season we would still be running about 30000 under cap which simply isn't good enough for a club our our size'"
Are you for real? £30k under a £1.6m cap is 'a disgrace'?
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| Quote ="Kosh"Are you for real? £30k under a £1.6m cap is 'a disgrace'?
Get a grip, man.'"
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| Heard a whisper today that Sharp is going and a new Head coach is being brought in with Agar dropping back down to assistant
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Heard a whisper today that Sharp is going and a new Head coach is being brought in with Agar dropping back down to assistant
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Heard a whisper today that Sharp is going and a new Head coach is being brought in with Agar dropping back down to assistant
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Probably Gary Wilkinson,or Len Casey
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Not a chance Agar would step down back to assistant.'"
cant see that either
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Heard a whisper today that Sharp is going and a new Head coach is being brought in with Agar dropping back down to assistant
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heard that whisper at the last home game tbh.
he may not have to step down, the new coach may well have the title similiar to Tony Smith 'director of rugby', then we can all interpret that how we want, though the club will appear to be backing Agar.
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| No matter what happens, I don't think we can carry on as we are.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"First highlighted point = absolute tosh
Second highlighted point - can you let me know how you will be able to tell this from the next set of financial figure which Hull release, as I am fooked if I know where you would find it on a set of abbreviated accounts. Also, come to think of it, a set of abbreviateds doesn't include Directors remuneration (Mrs H) and on the basis there is an accumulated loss and the company cannot pay dividends (to shareholders like Mr H), it would appear you are talking out of your anus
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gary hetherington is only an employee at leeds,but remains a major shareholder here at hull,and he will have his say financially where money should go(not on the salary cap).do you honestly believe that kath has it her own way?the other directors dont have the financial input what the hetheringtons have at hull.as for the accounts,they are not likely to show it,but they are not going to ''invest'' in hull without making sure they recieve anything back.year on year our so called debt is coming down,but our main creditors are the hetheringtons,so before you start talking think on
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"So you acknowledge agar is to blame but you think we should keep him?'"
Nope I never said that. I said it looks like the club are backing him and that in some ways it needs a coach to be backed so that he can stand upto the players who desperately need sorting out. I don't think Agar is the right man but either way the coach whoever it is needs backing.
The problem with a new man would be the lack of knowledge he would have with regard to players and he could end up keeping some of those that need shipping out. However he could keep Agar on his staff as a source of information but I think it would be wrong to do that, Agar has been around for too long and could be part of the problem in terms of the players.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"gary hetherington is only an employee at leeds,but remains a major shareholder here at hull,and he will have his say financially where money should go(not on the salary cap).do you honestly believe that kath has it her own way?the other directors dont have the financial input what the hetheringtons have at hull.as for the accounts,they are not likely to show it,but they are not going to ''invest'' in hull without making sure they recieve anything back.year on year our so called debt is coming down,but our main creditors are the hetheringtons,so before you start talking think on'"
GH is the MAIN employee at Leeds.
I couldn't give a flying fook if he was the only shareholder of Hull FC, he still couldn't get a dividend at the moment.
Just for the record, its directors that run companies, not the shareholders.
Unless you have seen a detailed breakdown of the creditors (which only the directors and shareholders will have) you will have no idea who is on the list of creditors.
Just for the record, it was the other shareholders who stumped up money, not the other directors.
Please find a few truths before you post.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"But the directors are "using the club as a cash cow", MMJ.
2% over base rate on loans plus zero dividend = bugger all return on their investment IMO. An inconvenient truth
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That has not been the case for 3 years now
Also, it was only on a loan from one shareholder (One of the Weatherills).
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| Quote ="stu_isaksen"I agree millward knows what SL is all about and also knows the mind set needed to win silver wear!
Or lets get Phil Clarke
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| i would take back Shaun Mcrae back in a heart beat the only coach we have had who new about playing to individuals strengths and a great tactical coach.
When's he out of contarct at Salford, worth a shot maybe???
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| Quote ="rowdellhead"i would take back Shaun Mcrae back in a heart beat the only coach we have had who new about playing to individuals strengths and a great tactical coach.
When's he out of contarct at Salford, worth a shot maybe???'"
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| no???
he was the only coach who new how to handle the board, he won't take half heated performances from players (saints away when he threatend to quit due to the poor performance of the players) look at the response he got for the following games.
Under him we played attractive rugby and were very disciplined all of which we are not under Agar
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| Quote ="rowdellhead"no???
he was the only coach who new how to handle the board, he won't take half heated performances from players (saints away when he threatend to quit due to the poor performance of the players) look at the response he got for the following games.
Under him we played attractive rugby and were very disciplined all of which we are not under Agar'"
we've moved on and so has the game
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| the only place we've moved is backwards, the only reason why Mcrae hasnt had much sucess at Salford is because of finances, something at Hull we are not short of.
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| Quote ="rowdellhead"i would take back Shaun Mcrae back in a heart beat the only coach we have had who new about playing to individuals strengths and a great tactical coach.
When's he out of contarct at Salford, worth a shot maybe???'"
I think we need better than him to be honest, modern ideas, and a new approach, similar to Nathan Brown at Huddersfield.
Have heard about a DOR postition at the club though being filled by a big name from Australia. Hope its not a play on words though and we end up with Marcus Vassilikopolous - now that is a big name!
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