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| Quote ="frepneyboy"Must be right then if its from you'"
Not that I have to justify to a nobody, but this is from him, when he was at school.
So unless he has changed his mind since he left school, then he isn't a Hull or Rovers fan, more of a rugby fan.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Not that I have to justify to a nobody, but this is from him, when he was at school.
So unless he has changed his mind since he left school, then he isn't a Hull or Rovers fan, more of a rugby fan.'"
Its a shame Rich Horne is a Rovers fan
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| Quote ="Bet Lynch"Of course it makes a difference, our problems for the last few seasons has been down to lack of decent h/backs, fans have been screaming out for them for several years now. I do not think people thought our recruitment would be poor, average maybe unless we are prepared to pay big bucks in transfer fees which Pearson has now made clear he is prepared to do, I am sure he will deliver actually as he does not appear to be the kind of person who would make such a bold statement.'"
Quote ="Bet Lynch"The fact he has said he is bringing in 2 top h/backs
Seymour & Horney would not have taken us forward, we knew that now thankfully Pearson knows that.'"
So Pearson needed to publicly state we were after halfbacks before we could have any belief that we'd be looking for them? We fans could have no reason for thinking that the people at the club would be able to spot the glaringly obvious weaknesses in our squad until they told us?
And Pearson [isaying[/i that we will be bringing in 2 top halfbacks is still [i words[/i. [iAction[/i would be when it is done. There's a difference.
I just really don't understand why Pearson spoonfeeding us some more specific promises was necessary before we'd believe he was serious, or why him doing so has then been given so much weight over his previous comments/actions. Or is just that we're so needy and demanding that he has to make public pronouncements about what his intentions are and where he's going to take us on a regular basis or we'll start to think he doesn't love us any more?
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"Its a shame Rich Horne is a Rovers fan'"
Whats this got to do with Taylor?
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"So Pearson needed to publicly state we were after halfbacks before we could have any belief that we'd be looking for them? We fans could have no reason for thinking that the people at the club would be able to spot the glaringly obvious weaknesses in our squad until they told us?
And Pearson [isaying[/i that we will be bringing in 2 top halfbacks is still [iwords[/i. [iAction[/i would be when it is done. There's a difference.
I just really don't understand why Pearson spoonfeeding us some more specific promises was necessary before we'd believe he was serious, or why him doing so has then been given so much weight over his previous comments/actions. Or is just that we're so needy and demanding that he has to make public pronouncements about what his intentions are and where he's going to take us on a regular basis or [iwe'll start to think he doesn't love us any more[/i?'"
WTF are you for real
The top & bottom is Pearson wants to keep the fans & hopefully get more through the door. The gates are dropping due to poor cup runs and inconsistent performances,and he wants fans to stay the par for the rest of the season and hopefully attract more next season in order to do this he has to take drastic action which he did, he has basically reassured the fans that he will invest in the area which we need it most next season, basic business sense.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Whats this got to do with Taylor?'"
dont have to tell a nobody
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| I'd gladly take chase and holdsworth as our h/b partnership next season and after reading what the hudge has put in hdm , about howes having a cosy relationship with a club when talking about Taylor, reckon we might land him as well .
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| Quote ="Dave K."Not that I have to justify to a nobody, then he isn't a Hull or Rovers fan, more of a rugby fan.'"
Not that I have to justify to a nobody : He only deals with SOMEBODYS
he isn't a Hull or Rovers fan, more of a rugby fan : Hull is full of those eh
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| Quote ="Bet Lynch":3gxq8kp1WTF are you for real
The top & bottom is Pearson wants to keep the fans & hopefully get more through the door. The gates are dropping due to poor cup runs and inconsistent performances,and he wants fans to stay the par for the rest of the season and hopefully attract more next season in order to do this he :3gxq8kp1=#0000FF:3gxq8kp1has to take drastic action which he did:3gxq8kp1:3gxq8kp1, he has basically reassured the fans that he will invest in the area which we need it most next season, basic business sense.'" :3gxq8kp1
You're really not getting this, are you? As I keep saying, he's not shown us :3gxq8kp1[i:3gxq8kp1any[/i:3gxq8kp1, but that conversely I don't see what substance there was in it to convert a cynic, although it appears to have done so. The man's a hell of an orator.
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| Quote ="Bet Lynch"WTF are you for real
The top & bottom is Pearson wants to keep the fans & hopefully get more through the door. The gates are dropping due to poor cup runs and inconsistent performances,and he wants fans to stay the par for the rest of the season and hopefully attract more next season in order to do this he has to take drastic action which he did, he has basically reassured the fans that he will invest in the area which we need it most next season, basic business sense.'"
When he managed not just to sign but also persuade Gareth Ellis that Hull was the place to finish his career (potentially) that was when I realised that internally (not just what the fans were hearing) things were on the up. His hefty investment in the club's future reinforced that (the youth system). His pronouncement about halves therefore didn't come as a surprise welcome though it was. The problem is that some fans wont accept short term pain for medium-long term gain. But that's OK because when things go on the up and we're challenging for cup/league they'll flood back as they always have. AP knows that too.
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| IF Taylor has said he wants to join us, you can imagine there is a good chance it will happen.
We would be talking a significant transfer fee which AP will be dangling in front of NH.
Would the KR board not be advising NH to sell if the offer is a large one?
If Pearson wants him, and the player wants to come it will happen, regardless of NH pride.
NH ia AP's biatch.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Chris28 is the man to ask this one, but don't you have to have some sort of pre-contract in place to obtain a Visa in the first place, to prove you have the employment to go to?'"
Well as no one on here knows what visa he has, or what's been applied for, it's anyone's guess. The impression I get is that he's applied for a visa on the basis of his relationship, so it's not a work visa that would tie him to us.
If that's the case then any contract is irrelevant to the visa.
If he gets that visa he's free to work anywhere.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Well as no one on here knows what visa he has, or what's been applied for, it's anyone's guess. The impression I get is that he's applied for a visa on the basis of his relationship, so it's not a work visa that would tie him to us.
If that's the case then any contract is irrelevant to the visa.
[uIf he gets that visa[/u he's free to work anywhere.'"
is there an outside period to the process ???
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| Quote ="voodooroo"is there an outside period to the process ???'"
Not sure what you mean
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| Quote ="Chris28"Well as no one on here knows what visa he has, or what's been applied for, it's anyone's guess. The impression I get is that he's applied for a visa on the basis of his relationship, so it's not a work visa that would tie him to us.
If that's the case then any contract is irrelevant to the visa.
If he gets that visa he's free to work anywhere.'"
If it is a work Visa, is it right that some sort of signed paperwork is required to prove the employment is there?
If it is on the basis of his relationship, you'd have to think we'd be incredibly stupid to be working the case on his behalf without some sort of guarantee he's ours if it is approved. I can't see Pearson being so naive, personally.
And is there any secret 3rd option?
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"If it is a work Visa, is it right that some sort of signed paperwork is required to prove the employment is there?'"
A certificate of sponsorship is issued by the club. Not paperwork but has the same effect.
Quote If it is on the basis of his relationship, you'd have to think we'd be incredibly stupid to be working the case on his behalf without some sort of guarantee he's ours if it is approved. I can't see Pearson being so naive, personally.'"
It sounds like we're helping him with the application, via the "London lawyers" so I guess theres some arrangement in place between us and the player'"
Quote And is there any secret 3rd option?'"
Nothing I can think of
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| Quote ="Chris28"icon_confused.gif:
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Is there like an outside period of time to which the depts concerned say they will have the visa process result decided or not or is it a how longs a piece of string scenario do you know
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| Quote ="voodooroo"Is there like an outside period of time to which the depts concerned say they will have the visa process result decided or not or is it a how longs a piece of string scenario do you know'"
It's a bit of a piece of string thing
UKBA have just changed their website to change the "don't contact us unless you case has been outstanding for" time from 14 weeks to 6 months.
Again, I don't know the type of application so no real idea how long it will take. Rangi and the club will have no idea either probably.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Well as no one on here knows what visa he has, or what's been applied for, it's anyone's guess. The impression I get is that he's applied for a visa on the basis of his relationship, so it's not a work visa that would tie him to us.
If that's the case then any contract is irrelevant to the visa.
If he gets that visa he's free to work anywhere.'"
That's what I thought. Would significatly increase his transfer value for cas and his salary to us if wire, leeds and wigan became interested. With briers likely calling it a day and finch leaving wigan, I doubt we would be the highest bidders
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| Quote ="Chris28"A certificate of sponsorship is issued by the club. Not paperwork but has the same effect.'"
Thought there had to be something. Is such a thing binding for the player in any way do you know?
Quote ="Chris28"It sounds like we're helping him with the application, via the "London lawyers" so I guess theres some arrangement in place between us and the player'"
That's how I'd see it. I just can't believe we'd be working on obtaining him a visa which would enable him to still go elsewhere. I reckon he's either ours or not going anywhere.
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Good.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Thought there had to be something. Is such a thing binding for the player in any way do you know?'"
Not legally, but I'd expect some sort of gentleman's agreement to be in place if they're going down that route
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| Quote ="Chris28"Not legally, but I'd expect some sort of gentleman's agreement to be in place if they're going down that route'"
Ah. Is Rangi Chase a gentleman?
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| Heard a rumour today (not about hull but will still make you laugh) while at work that NH is fed up of the dobbins and wants out.
he fed up of investing all his money into a sinking club
dunno how true or joke a mess about but it what i heard
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| Quote ="heard1989"Heard a rumour today (not about hull but will still make you laugh) while at work that NH is fed up of the dobbins and wants out.
he fed up of investing all his money into a sinking club
dunno how true or joke a mess about but it what i heard
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Hopefully it's true, then hkr can go bust with a few more other clubs, our game can stumble into a 8 team sl, lose half the tv money and become semi pro.
But as long as we finish higher than hkr who cares.
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| So all that's really happened is were getting rid of Seymour and replacing him with another half.
We've still signed 8 out of 11 players were chasing and are trying to get Chase and Taylor to join them.
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