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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"I think that's unfair. He's had some good performances and will be a useful impact prop when he gets some regular game time.'"
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| Not only will game time improve Moa, but the firmer pitches further into the season likewise IMO. Would be nice to have him rotating with O'Meley so that we have a reasonably mobile prop on the field for most of the match.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Not only will game time improve Moa, but the firmer pitches further into the season likewise IMO. Would be nice to have him rotating with O'Meley so that we have a reasonably mobile prop on the field for most of the match.'" Got to agree with that.
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| Any one from three could go at the end of the season ..
Cussack Dowes or Radford!
AND all three could stay too as Cussack is mulling over another year as we speak! and on present form I would keep him too.
But as everyone states its wayyyyyyy to early for such things and as the season draws to a close injuries may well foce a few hands in the mix!!
Not sure about LMS either, looks lost in the headlights a lot for me!!
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"Any one from three could go at the end of the season ..
Cussack Dowes or Radford!
AND all three could stay too as Cussack is mulling over another year as we speak! and on present form I would keep him too.
But as everyone states its wayyyyyyy to early for such things and as the season draws to a close injuries may well foce a few hands in the mix!!
Not sure about LMS either, looks lost in the headlights a lot for me!!'"
With overseas spots reduced by 1 next year i would see it as highly unlikely that we'll keep Cusack. I'd much rather we extend Fitz' deal.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"With overseas spots reduced by 1 next year i would see it as highly unlikely that we'll keep Cusack. I'd much rather we extend Fitz' deal.'"
That would be prefared but i have not seen anything anywhere that offers that this might happen ??
Like we all said its too early yet isnt it!
Given a choice mind if Cussack wanted another year under next years overseas cap... bye bye Moa
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"That would be prefared but i have not seen anything anywhere that offers that this might happen ??
Like we all said its too early yet isnt it!
Given a choice mind if Cussack wanted another year under next years overseas cap... bye bye Moa'"
Maybe too soon to write Moa off. See how he progresses over the season.
I'd be inclined i Moa doesn't progress to allow both Cusack and Moa to go and recruit.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Maybe too soon to write Moa off. See how he progresses over the season.
I'd be inclined i Moa doesn't progress to allow both Cusack and Moa to go and recruit.'"
Jury is out on that one, I am sure with game time Moa could become a Feka type player but is he going to get the game time at FC to develop that??
again if there was a magic wish list to have I would make way for incoming troops by losing Dowes or Radford before Cussack , however am I doing any of them an injustice as non of them have done anything wrong thus far!!!
who would be a coach huh
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"=#FF0000Maybe too soon to write Moa off. See how he progresses over the season.
I'd be inclined i Moa doesn't progress to allow both Cusack and Moa to go and recruit.'"
How long does this kid need? He spent all last season at the club.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"How long does this kid need? He spent all last season at the club.'"
He didnt join for pre-season if i remember correctly and spent most of the season trying to get fit.
He has now had a full off season and looks leaner and fitter than he did. With game time and on firm pitches i think he will be a very good addition for us.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"He didnt join for pre-season if i remember correctly and spent most of the season trying to get fit.'"
Im trying to not have a pop here but how long does it take for a professional rugby league player to get fit?
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"How long does this kid need? He spent all last season at the club.'"
He needs long enough to get better than the props currently being picked. Don't worry, he'll play and on the firmer grounds he'll be skittling over opposition defences.
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| Quote ="downtheante"He needs long enough to get better than the props currently being picked. Don't worry, he'll play and on the firmer grounds he'll be skittling over opposition defences.'"
I worry about James Graham, I worry about Jamie Peacock, I would even worry about O'Meley in the form he is currently in, one prop I wont be worrying about coming up against us is Moa.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"I worry about James Graham, I worry about Jamie Peacock, I would even worry about O'Meley in the form he is currently in, one prop I wont be worrying about coming up against us is Moa.'"
I would agree that after one SL game his form is a little lacking but in my post I did make the observation that he will be at his best on the harder pitches.
At 28 Mark O'Meley is probably approaching the perfect age for a prop in the British game (Graham 25, Peacock 32) so I think you're right to include him in your list. He is a tremendous buy for us - his defence and attack are relentlessly hard and opposition players are feeling it. I'm sure he'll get a knock or too as well, but I think that's how he likes it - a tough game for tough players.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"I worry about James Graham, I worry about Jamie Peacock, I would even worry about O'Meley in the form he is currently in, one prop I wont be worrying about coming up against us is Moa.'"
Is now the time to point out not a single one of your props worry the opposition?
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"How long does this kid need? He spent all last season at the club.'"
This is starting wind me up now. He was actually playing well at the end of last season and has only played about 20 minutes this season, that being whilst 4 games worth of match fitness behind the other props, and all of a sudden he is he is crap because he didn't have a great game. Not specifically aimed at you by the way.
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| Quote ="downtheante"I would agree that after one SL game his form is a little lacking but in my post I did make the observation that he will be at his best on the harder pitches.
At 28 Mark O'Meley is probably approaching the perfect age for a prop in the British game (Graham 25, Peacock 32) so I think you're right to include him in your list. He is a tremendous buy for us - his defence and attack are relentlessly hard and opposition players are feeling it. I'm sure he'll get a knock or too as well, but I think that's how he likes it - a tough game for tough players.'"
Moa couldn't get fit last year, yes he missed pre-season but still never got anywhere near to the standard needed. Now I could maybe understand if he was mid thirties but he aint.
Like Fitzy he is another player I have really enjoyed watching play over in the NRL, his days at Canterbury where awesome. After a few off seasons I doubted he would come over here and start like he has done, in very good form!
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"Any one from three could go at the end of the season ..
Cussack Dowes or Radford!
AND all three could stay too as Cussack is mulling over another year as we speak! and on present form I would keep him too.
But as everyone states its wayyyyyyy to early for such things and as the season draws to a close injuries may well foce a few hands in the mix!!
Not sure about LMS either, looks lost in the headlights a lot for me!!'"
With the quota dropping by another spot next year it would be a total waste to renew Cusacks contract. Much as I like him we have other priorities. Either get Fitz signed up or bring in a youngish Aussie SH for a start.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"=#0000BFMoa couldn't get fit last year, yes he missed pre-season but still never got anywhere near to the standard needed. Now I could maybe understand if he was mid thirties but he aint.
Like Fitzy he is another player I have really enjoyed watching play over in the NRL, his days at Canterbury where awesome. After a few off seasons I doubted he would come over here and start like he has done, in very good form!'"
Now you're just sounding like a troll. Why do you think Rovers were after him at the end of last seasaon and why do you think so many Hull fans pressed for the club to keep him?
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Im trying to not have a pop here but how long does it take for a professional rugby league player to get fit?'"
Depends how long they've been out for. There's no doubting O'Meley's quality and even he isn't back to full fitness yet.
It's the difference between full health and match fitness, which Moa won't get without game time.
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| Quote ="downtheante"Now you're just sounding like a troll. Why do you think Rovers were after him at the end of last seasaon and why do you think so many Hull fans pressed for the club to keep him?'"
Its become the latest message board myth that Moa has never played well for us and never been fit etc etc.
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| Quote ="downtheante"Now you're just sounding like a troll. =#FF0000Why do you think Rovers were after him at the end of last seasaon and why do you think so many Hull fans pressed for the club to keep him?'"
Just a rumour!
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Its become the latest message board myth that Moa has never played well for us and never been fit etc etc.'"
I think that there is a noisy minority who like to suggest that they represent the silent majority. Moa was definitely not fit when he joined us mid-season but by the time he was fit at the end of the season he was a crowd favourite for good reason. At the end of the season, if everyone is fit and Moa has developed further, much as I like Cusack, I would be very tempted take the young Sam Moa over Cusack who, at only 33, is much nearer the end of his career.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Just a rumour!'"
Yeah - I think you started it...
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Just a rumour!'"
oh dear
I can i assure you 1 zillion per cent assure you that it was more than a rumour!!
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