Yes, and that was probably only because they raised their game against us,

however, if the performances against Bradford and Featherstone are anything to go by, it looks like it could be a long hard season for our black and white neighbours.

When you have fev fans coming on here taking the p@ss, you know things are bad, massively disappointed, especially for Whiting, doesn't look good, in what seems to be the worst pre season that I can remember, not overly panicking yet, but the signs don't look good.

How much pre season has McDonnell (none?), Paea, Feka, Ellis, Houghton, Heremaia had?

Could have been a worse pre-season if we hadn't scored a last second try at Donny and rovers hadn't blown 2 or 3 tries in the first half.

You have just explained the reason for the humiliating defeat,well done !!

I'll be there as a I have a pass but I can't say that I'm excited for the new season at all.

all signs are that its going to be yet more drab, inconsistent rugby, and it couldn't come at a worse time for the club with the changes that are coming in.

I fear that we could quite easily slip back from being 6th-8th like we have been for the last few years, and slip to 9th-12th place. With the 2015 structure changes that would mean playing Championship opposition in the runoff, which will cripple the club financially (our budget is set up to be a top end SL club) and once your in that middle league of 8 it'll be hard to get rid of the malase and get back in to the top league of 8.

might sound a bit hasty as the season hasn't even begun, but I think we are a lot closer to the above scenario than we are the 'top4' club that Pearson makes so much noise about.

When we lost Green and Watts early on, our pack (on paper) looked very vulnerable, and I don't think Radford would have wanted to risk any more injuries in a "friendly".

If we slip 9th-12th we could be in danger of playing our 150th anniversary season in the championship

We still had replacements on the bench and played with a decent 13 in the first half, to be down 24(?) 6 at half time was farcical.

The game wasn't lost at half time, but the team that started the second half was never going to win...

Nicklin Stark Arundel Liggins Leaming Miller Abdul Bowden Hadley BTW Whiting Fash Thompson

if we were winning at half-time and then went on to lose due to young players getting a run out I don't think the fans would have an issue.

its the fact that the same bunch of first-teamers clearly couldn't be bothered yet again, which is what we see year in year out and why we haven't been anything but mid-low table also rans for the last 7 years.

I'm not saying it was lost, nor that it is important, the manner of our defeat in the first half is.

Do you really believe that?

James Smailes ‏@James_Smailes 33m
Liam Watts (shin) and Chris Green (ankle) going for scans in injuries. Lee Radford a very angry man right now after that display

Nowt what a few beers with the lads wont cure.

yes, I believe we have several players who think they are of international standard that are only interested when we play the 'big' games and are completely anonymous when we play a lesser side.

Our form last July is a prime example: lost poorly at home to Wakefield, lost to top of the table Huddersfield but competed with them, then went to France and won a tricky cup tie, before losing to a poor Bradford team and then finally beating Warrington to get to Wembley. The players turned up for the games that mattered to them and lost the ones we would have been expected to win.

I went to support Richard Whiting today (and well done to all the fans who went)
all I can say is I was very disappointed in the ability and skill levels of all our players,
no idea in attack and no guts in defence
it's going to be a long hard season
good luck to Richard in his testimonial year

des/chester wed/ f90/ lol u do cheers us up, at least we got you on here to laugh at ,

And Bruce hasnt turned up yet

And might I add, just coming on here tonight has given me a good laugh to.

So who in the starting line-up would you say were non-tryers then ?

Shaul, Lineham, Crooks, Yeaman, Stark, Horne, Rankin, Watts, Hadley, Bowden, Thompson, Whiting, Westerman

I prefered it when the online commentary didn't work.

So going on that theory, the CC final didn't matter to them?

Thanks very much, my pleasure, by the way how many trombones led the big parade?

Makes my sss boil in these games people always talk about how many players the super league side have missing. Rovers had loads out today as well, both our main half back pairing wernt playing Briggs and Kain neither