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| so we are split the majority do not want Radders as captain and some do because "hes a Hull lad" , like i said the club are carrying deadwood , be prepared for another poor embarrassing season again !!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="PAUL M"A good point. Before he had to play where as now he doesn't. The only think is Tickle runs better attacking lines than Radford who really plays like a prop.
Maybe we will only play with one prop on the bench and have Tickle on the bench too? That way Radford could cover the 4th prop spot?
I would like this side:-
Tony
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I just hope that Washy does not get pushed out.'"
King?
Can we keep him sober?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"
Maybe we will only play with one prop on the bench and have Tickle on the bench too? That way Radford could cover the 4th prop spot?
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Could do that you know. Dowes and Cusack both like to play 60-70 mins too so its definately an option.
I think we can only see Tickle get better next season too when he doesnt have to be on the field as much.
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| Quote ="Standee"King?
Can we keep him sober?'"
Any news on Kingy?
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| Not read the thread, but what on earth has Radford done to deserve another extension? I'm not one of Radfords biggest critics, I think he has been slagged off way too much by some people and think he didnt do too bad at times. But an extra year on top of 2009? It's crazy. Tickle, Crocker, Manu and Washbrook are all better than him, Whiting could be argued to be better than him, and Brunett could break into the team in the next couple of seasons. So why sign him up for longer?
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| Quote ="The Key"Not read the thread, but what on earth has Radford done to deserve another extension? I'm not one of Radfords biggest critics, I think he has been slagged off way too much by some people and think he didnt do too bad at times. But an extra year on top of 2009? It's crazy. Tickle, Crocker, Manu and Washbrook are all better than him, Whiting could be argued to be better than him, and Brunett could break into the team in the next couple of seasons. So why sign him up for longer?'"
Because he was better last season than Manu and Tickle!!
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Because he was better last season than Manu and Tickle!!
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I think Tickle wasnt as good as he could be, and Manu was inconsistant, but still think both played better, and are better than Radford
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| Quote ="The Key"Not read the thread, but what on earth has Radford done to deserve another extension? I'm not one of Radfords biggest critics, I think he has been slagged off way too much by some people and think he didnt do too bad at times. But an extra year on top of 2009? It's crazy. Tickle, Crocker, Manu and Washbrook are all better than him, Whiting could be argued to be better than him, and Brunett could break into the team in the next couple of seasons. So why sign him up for longer?'" Thats upto the coach to decide. If he gets it wrong and many other things wrong, on his head be it. Some people on here seem to think they could coach a team better than what we have at hull. Yet they never seem to take their coaching badges. Sometimes you have to give Agar the benefit of the doubt and support what he is doing, if he gets it wrong then you can complain.
Who knows what this season will bring
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| Quote ="The Key"I think Tickle wasnt as good as he could be, and Manu was inconsistant, but still think both played better, and are better than Radford'"
And as has been evident all season i disagree!
Yes Radfords consistency was his real strength, im not ebven going to mention the stats anymore!!
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| Quote ="The Key"I think Tickle wasnt as good as he could be, and Manu was inconsistant, but still think both played better, and are better than Radford'"
Both are a different kind of player to Radford.
Both also need to be far more consistant next year.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Both are a different kind of player to Radford.
Both also need to be far more consistant next year.'"
Less game time for Tickle is the answer for him i think (40 mins rather than 80 will allow him to give more) and some work to stop giving away silly penalties.
less game time is also the answer for Manu IMO too as he should play two 20s off the bench. Injuries too meant that he had to play 70 mins some weeks which lead to his incosistencies partly.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Less game time for Tickle is the answer for him i think (40 mins rather than 80 will allow him to give more) and some work to stop giving away silly penalties.
less game time is also the answer for Manu IMO too as he should play two 20s off the bench. Injuries too meant that he had to play 70 mins some weeks which lead to his incosistencies partly.'"
Less game time is essential for Tickle. Pretty sure he played alot of last season busted up because he was our kicker.
Manu just needs more consistency.
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| Quote ="BlackNwhite"Thats upto the coach to decide. If he gets it wrong and many other things wrong, on his head be it. Some people on here seem to think they could coach a team better than what we have at hull. Yet they never seem to take their coaching badges. Sometimes you have to give Agar the benefit of the doubt and support what he is doing, if he gets it wrong then you can complain.
Who knows what this season will bring'"
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| Quote ="BlackNwhite"Thats upto the coach to decide. If he gets it wrong and many other things wrong, on his head be it. Some people on here seem to think they could coach a team better than what we have at hull. Yet they never seem to take their coaching badges. Sometimes you have to give Agar the benefit of the doubt and support what he is doing, if he gets it wrong then you can complain.
Who knows what this season will bring'"
Whats coaching got to do with picking a team? I'd be crap at coaching but I bet I could pick a good starting 17 for a club
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| Quote ="BlackNwhite"Thats upto the coach to decide. If he gets it wrong and many other things wrong, on his head be it. Some people on here seem to think they could coach a team better than what we have at hull. Yet they never seem to take their coaching badges. Sometimes you have to give Agar the benefit of the doubt and support what he is doing, if he gets it wrong then you can complain.
Who knows what this season will bring'"
Dont be so rational it is stopping a good debate here....
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| Quote ="The Key"Whats coaching got to do with picking a team? I'd be crap at coaching but I bet I could pick a good starting 17 for a club
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That just proves your knowledge....can seei t now.......right these are the 17 best players...go out and do what you want.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"That just proves your knowledge....can seei t now.......right these are the 17 best players...go out and do what you want.'"
I'm not sure you have got me. I'm not saying you dont need coaching. But for example, I bet I could watch a team train, watch a team perform on match day etc, and pick a good team. I would be crap at actually doing the coaching, the tactics, talking to the players etc which is all needed from a headcoach, but I think picking a side can be quite easy
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| Quote ="t.m.t.b.f."and you'd know all about them wouldnt you halfwit? ive seen enough donkeys from st helens in this world cup to get a job on scarboro beach in a summer cartin kids around'"
you mean the donkeys that Smith omitted today
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| Quote ="The Key"Not read the thread, but what on earth has Radford done to deserve another extension? I'm not one of Radfords biggest critics, I think he has been slagged off way too much by some people and think he didnt do too bad at times. But an extra year on top of 2009? It's crazy. Tickle, Crocker, Manu and Washbrook are all better than him, Whiting could be argued to be better than him, and Brunett could break into the team in the next couple of seasons. So why sign him up for longer?'"
Well said Key !!! The back row will be probably be the strongest part of our squad next season with a genuine hardman, genuine line breaker, talented LF(two of) and the likes of Burnett and even G Horne as adequate back-up. So why the hell have we gone and handed another year to the one SR forward who, IMO, we could afford to offload.
It makes no sense to me whatsoever.
But then releasing Webster with nobody lined-up to come the other way didn't either ??
If we start with what we have for next season, we will need those rumoured extra two play-off spots because that's where we will be aiming to finish.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar" So why the hell have we gone and handed another year to the one SR forward who, IMO, we could afford to offload.
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Because thats only your opinion and some other fans opinions. Luckily Agar sees things different.
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