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| Quote ="Rubyred1"That's maybe because he stated Publicly at the end of last season he had spent Big and a top 4 was the Minimum required.'"
Yes the table never lies
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"Yes the table never lies
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It does not indeed me old Fruit......And I cant see you in that top 4?
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| Quote ="Lang Park"Well I thought that was a cracking game. Some good tries and the result wasn't certain until the final minute or so.
Yes we are a bit predictable and could desperately do to diversify our kicking game but the lads gave it everything tonight and were unlucky against a top side with a real monster in Inu.
Think we were only a couple of Fonua howlers away from a result, in spite of all the woe on here.'"
I love Inu, fantastic player.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I love Inu, fantastic player.'"
Could be going to Leigh next season.
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| To be honest had it not been for some poor decisions and errors then the game was more than winnable.
Think Ian Watson summed up the difference it’s all about attitude and working hard for each other. I’m not sure as a team that the attitude is right and Andy Last for me references that by saying they aren’t working hard enough. I felt for Last tonight individually we have a good and talented squad but as a team they are miles off. Even Phil Clarke who normally spouts drivel noted our passing is poor.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Hard to spot sarcasm on here sometimes but that top team had only won twice before tonight.'"
No sarcasm. I genuinely enjoyed the game, aside from the result.
Think Salford are a lot better than their league form would suggest. They've played class both times against us and their victory over Catalans in the cup was well deserved.
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| As a club we are shot in confidence. Its almost like weve forgotten how to play rugby. Radfords coaching has killed us and now weve got Last trying to change things but not really knowing how to
We look lost on the field. We look the worst coached team in SL. Not Lasts fault, tbh more Pearsons for letting Radford continue in his role about two seasons too long
We need a new beginning
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| Oh and btw Conner was garbage yet again - get rid
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"As a club we are shot in confidence. Its almost like weve forgotten how to play rugby. Radfords coaching has killed us and now weve got Last trying to change things but not really knowing how to
We look lost on the field. We look the worst coached team in SL. Not Lasts fault, tbh more Pearsons for letting Radford continue in his role about two seasons too long
We need a new beginning'"
I would tend to agree that under Radfords coaching and philosophy have been lacking and set us back and AP should have been much less sentimental and let him go last season.
In terms of Andy Last/Kieron Purtill I think it’s far to early to say one way or the other. They have taken over and faced an almighty challenge that no other coach has or will ever face in terms of what’s happened as soon as he took over.
He took over then had no access to the squad for 3 months to work with them and implement his ideas and make changes. To then face the positive tests the team suffered and witch hunt that ensued which again hampered what they could do. Then add to that that the injuries and fixtures in such short turn around a means he & Purtill have hardly actually had much time or quality time to be able to really get stuck in to making sweeping changes.
It’s very tough and difficult times and with no end in sight from the current covid situation and the perilous state of the sport and it won’t hurt to look at things from another perspective before acting. Even if we’d have had a top class coach come in at the same time as Andy Last took over the reins I’m not sure there’d have been any significant change either due to the same reasons.
He’s proved so far he is a guy prepared to make big decisions and drop players no matter who they are if they are not performing.
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| Just about to watch the game
Should I use my morning off to watch ??
Last is out of his depth - no point in slagging the players
It’s starts with the coach and he’s simply so far out of his depth
I don’t take any notice of posters blaming players
If Fonua went to Saints we’d Shiite ourselves as he’d play in a proper system
We are at Full Cap and have good youngsters
It’s the coaching. Please don’t write “Bin 6 players”
We’ve been changing players for years and it barely does anything
Ian Watson at Reds is an example of polishing the cat turd of you like. Reds aren’t anywhere near full cap and they made the GF and are in the CC semi final and no one would like to play them currently
It’s Almost always the Coach
Mourinho wins the European Cup with Porto !!
Do Lasty a favour and move him and a few long term back room staff on
Give KP the last 7 games, with Gaz E as asst , and then
see how we go as the game is in real danger as a sport.
When and only when AP has clarity do we sign a world class coach.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Oh and btw Conner was garbage yet again - get rid'"
Connor should revert now back to right centre,Carlos back to left centre and move Griffin onto the bench
No reason now not to give McNamara a bit of a run.
If there was a possibility to move Connor on for a fee i would as he is overhyped and overrated.
A fee for Connor and Jones with their salaries off the books would really help because the team priority has to be a running half with some pace
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| Inu first try
Shaul really looked like a poor full back
His positioning and attempt was so poor !
He should have shown him the wing
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"Inu first try
Shaul really looked like a poor full back
His positioning and attempt was so poor !
He should have shown him the wing'"
No point in slagging off the players!! Straight in there next post.
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| Quote ="Chris71"I would tend to agree that under Radfords coaching and philosophy have been lacking and set us back and AP should have been much less sentimental and let him go last season.
In terms of Andy Last/Kieron Purtill I think it’s far to early to say one way or the other. They have taken over and faced an almighty challenge that no other coach has or will ever face in terms of what’s happened as soon as he took over.
He took over then had no access to the squad for 3 months to work with them and implement his ideas and make changes. To then face the positive tests the team suffered and witch hunt that ensued which again hampered what they could do. Then add to that that the injuries and fixtures in such short turn around a means he & Purtill have hardly actually had much time or quality time to be able to really get stuck in to making sweeping changes.
It’s very tough and difficult times and with no end in sight from the current covid situation and the perilous state of the sport and it won’t hurt to look at things from another perspective before acting. Even if we’d have had a top class coach come in at the same time as Andy Last took over the reins I’m not sure there’d have been any significant change either due to the same reasons.
He’s proved so far he is a guy prepared to make big decisions and drop players no matter who they are if they are not performing.'"
It was a big ask, but it was one that Andy Last believed he could do.
For my money I think Adam Person should have had a high qualified coach to take over before getting rid of Radders.
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| Think we’re paying the price of hanging onto Radford a year too long.
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| For me shaul farimo Houghton lane manu satae can hold there heads up. The rest where average to awful. Agree about Griffin moving to pack as looking a bit slow last night.
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| Incredibly Andy last didnt see anything wrong with fash's cannonball tackle,he must have a wicked sense of humour, a terrible tackle imo.
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| Quote ="des lawson"Incredibly Andy last didnt see anything wrong with fash's cannonball tackle,he must have a wicked sense of humour, a terrible tackle imo.'"
agree bad tackle, could be a long ban
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| Quote ="hull2524"agree bad tackle, could be a long ban'"
The RFL used to say that you can do it the way he did it, so the knee bends at its natural angle. However, the rules have changed (for the better might I add), so can see a 3 game ban coming, as it was bloody stupid - no need for it!
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| The defeat is disappointing, but the score line is better than I thought it would be at one point so weren’t too far away. An improvement also versus last time we were humiliated by Salford. I hope things are starting to mend, it’s hard to say. If we can win next time out then Lasty has a chance to continue and maintain and even improve our form. But things are on a knife edge I think, and if he loses next time out his future as head coach has to be in doubt. The present Covid climate and uncertain times restricting any move for a replacement coach may be Andy’s saviour. But then there is always Purtill, though he’s already been overlooked once.
We and Last desperately need a win next time out or the season is over.
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Quote ="hull2524"agree bad tackle, could be a long ban'"
Fash charged - zero match penalty notice.
Sarginson got 2 matches for clocking Shaul on the head.
Seems that Watson wasn't impressed, another whinger a bit like Powell..
https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/watson-s ... ies-33602/
Maybe we should judge coaches using a whingeometer?
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Quote ="hull2524"agree bad tackle, could be a long ban'"
Fash charged - zero match penalty notice.
Sarginson got 2 matches for clocking Shaul on the head.
Seems that Watson wasn't impressed, another whinger a bit like Powell..
https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/watson-s ... ies-33602/
Maybe we should judge coaches using a whingeometer?
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Quote ="ccs"Fash charged - zero match penalty notice.
Sarginson got 2 matches for clocking Shaul on the head.
Seems that Watson wasn't impressed, another whinger a bit like Powell..
https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/watson-s ... ies-33602/
Maybe we should judge coaches using a whingeometer?
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Probably Conservative himself with his teams Two points !!
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Sarginson got 2 matches for clocking Shaul on the head.
Seems that Watson wasn't impressed, another whinger a bit like Powell..
https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/watson-s ... ies-33602/
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Probably Conservative himself with his teams Two points !!
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| Quote ="ANTWERP RED"Probably Conservative himself with his teams Two points !!'"
Don't think it was anything to do with his political persuasion!
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Don't think it was anything to do with his political persuasion!
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| So, who knew that Lane had that sort of pace? Where's he been hiding that?
Been very impressed with Lane recently, he's hit a good bit of personal form.
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