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| Quote ="Chris71"It's pure fantasy that Crooks or Miller were scapegoated by Radford!! Crooks after one good season (along with lineman) got the idea he was a world class player and wanted far more than his worth. Miller on the other hand was a young kid with a lot of potential but due to McRaes appalling deal was being paid way too much. Radford due the mess left by poor recruitment under McRae/Gentle meant hard tough decisions had to be made. We needed an experienced halfback so Miller had to go due to his over the top contract & taking an overseas spot, likewise Crooks chose to leave rather than sign a contract the club deemed he was worth.
Think Radford has been proved correct when releasing players as Crooks has really set the world alight since leaving. Miller whilst being decent is still not as good as Sneyd or Kelly so again correct decision when the squad needed changing and the use of the salary needed to maximised. Both Radford and Motu have done a great job in addressing and resolving the issues left when they took on their roles.'"
Agree with your Miller comments.
I would add also that I think Gentle put him in too early, we all hoped the young budding starlet from West's would be an instant hit, but the more Gentle persevered the more Miller struggled and his form drifted the wrong way.
Actually I felt sorry for the kid, so young, making a brave move across the world, joining a club who were waiting for "the one" after so many false starts.
The lad was instantly placed in a high pressure situation and I don't think that cauldron helped him one bit. He had his moments but he was never quite the answer.
I was sad to see him go, as there was obviously a player in there somewhere, but his salary determined time would not be on his side with his tenure at Hull FC. Whilst he probably was glad of the move just to let himself catch his breath and start again.
I don't think he changed that much in his first season at Trinity, but his time since then has seen him develop into a very good half indeed. I think there is less pressure at Belle Vue, and he has profited massively from that, building his game slowly without the expectation of needing to be the instant solution we craved.
I think he's now established as a key playmaker, and a real running threat who can create something out of nothing.
Jacob Miller has served his time now, and has passed a tough test of character, I think he will go on to a more established club in time, where he will make a name for himself and have the success and career we all hoped for with us.
He just wasn't quite ready, and we just never had the time he needed.
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| Quote ="Uppo58"Agree with your Miller comments.
I would add also that I think Gentle put him in too early, we all hoped the young budding starlet from West's would be an instant hit, but the more Gentle persevered the more Miller struggled and his form drifted the wrong way.
Actually I felt sorry for the kid, so young, making a brave move across the world, joining a club who were waiting for "the one" after so many false starts.
The lad was instantly placed in a high pressure situation and I don't think that cauldron helped him one bit. He had his moments but he was never quite the answer.
I was sad to see him go, as there was obviously a player in there somewhere, but his salary determined time would not be on his side with his tenure at Hull FC. Whilst he probably was glad of the move just to let himself catch his breath and start again.
I don't think he changed that much in his first season at Trinity, but his time since then has seen him develop into a very good half indeed. I think there is less pressure at Belle Vue, and he has profited massively from that, building his game slowly without the expectation of needing to be the instant solution we craved.
I think he's now established as a key playmaker, and a real running threat who can create something out of nothing.
Jacob Miller has served his time now, and has passed a tough test of character, I think he will go on to a more established club in time, where he will make a name for himself and have the success and career we all hoped for with us.
He just wasn't quite ready, and we just never had the time he needed.'"
Spot on.
Another factor as to why Miller didnt work at Hull was he was clearly unfit. His body shape was completely different to what it is now as a wakey player.
Going back to Crooks, we was a one season wonder and was made to look better then he actually was buy Daniel Holdsworth putting him through gaps.
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| Albert Kelly is a gentleman, he's earned this contract extension . Hope Gaz Hock knocks his 'ugly sexist' head off on Thursday, then justice will have been served.
Just because he's well known but extremely ugly, doesn't give him the right to speak like he did to the girl in McDonalds.
Hull FC have 'brushed it all under the carpet' then gave him a new contract. Says it all really....
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Albert Kelly is a gentleman, he's earned this contract extension
. Hope Gaz Hock knocks his 'ugly sexist' head off on Thursday, then justice will have been served.
Just because he's well known but extremely ugly, doesn't give him the right to speak like he did to the girl in McDonalds.
Hull FC have 'brushed it all under the carpet' then gave him a new contract. Says it all really....'"
Aye we have to thank a Rovers fan for posting that. Otherwise he may have been on his way back to the NRL.
Hock is an has been. Got far tougher in Hull squad.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Hope Gaz Hock knocks his 'ugly sexist' head off on Thursday, then justice will have been served.'"
What's Hock going to do? Jump in to the stand and go search him out?
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| Quote ="shauney"What's Hock going to do? Jump in to the stand and go search him out?'"
If he did it wouldnt even make the top 5 for idiotic things Hock has done.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"If he did it wouldnt even make the top 5 for idiotic things Hock has done.'"
Leigh fan, the club who has signed Ryan Bailey this season and Hock in the past.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla" . Hope Gaz Hock knocks his 'ugly sexist' head off on Thursday, then justice will have been served.
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Not sure why Hock has to be dragged into this. His best years are well behind him and Championship is his level now but he's played pretty well for Fev this year having come in without a pre-season and been unfit at the start, and he has barely conceded a penalty let alone been involved in any shenanigans - and Kelly won't be playing anyway.
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| Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"Not sure why Hock has to be dragged into this. His best years are well behind him and Championship is his level now but he's played pretty well for Fev this year having come in without a pre-season and been unfit at the start, and he has barely conceded a penalty let alone been involved in any shenanigans - and Kelly won't be playing anyway.
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| Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"Not sure why Hock has to be dragged into this. His best years are well behind him and Championship is his level now but he's played pretty well for Fev this year having come in without a pre-season and been unfit at the start, and he has barely conceded a penalty let alone been involved in any shenanigans - and Kelly won't be playing anyway.'"
How is Turgut getting on?
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| We need Kelly right if Sneyd is out for the season.
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| Never mind Mr Kelly, I see Steve Michaels has been charged with dealing cocaine. Imagine trying to run the Titans with that going on. There were widespread rumours about it, hence my misgivings about Leeds signing Beau Falloon or anyone going near Dave Taylor.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Never mind Mr Kelly, I see Steve Michaels has been charged with dealing cocaine. Imagine trying to run the Titans with that going on. There were widespread rumours about it, hence my misgivings about Leeds signing Beau Falloon or anyone going near Dave Taylor.'"
Oh, how the righteous preach!!!
For a fan of a club who employed convicted criminals, who did time, in Chev Walker and Ryan Bailey, I am surprised you'd be bringing anything up!
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Never mind Mr Kelly, I see Steve Michaels has been charged with dealing cocaine. Imagine trying to run the Titans with that going on. There were widespread rumours about it, hence my misgivings about Leeds signing Beau Falloon or anyone going near Dave Taylor.'"
He was arrested and latterly charged 6 months ago on his arrival back in Australia, do keep up dear boy.
The arrest warrant was not made until he'd already made his debut AND currently he is still innocent until proven guilty, typically for people like you, you presume guilt before a trial before ones peers, shows you up for the total {very rude word removed} that you are. I bet you're the type that would convict someone just by the way they appear.
Whilst at the club he was a model professional, the club did not know about what he was allegedly involved in (before he signed/played) and so far only a recent statement by a friend so he can get himself a reduced conviction is the only 'evidence', this is what the police are relying on because if they had had some actual hard evidence they would have extradited Michaels at the earliest opportunity some three years ago, this has happened a fair few times for drugs cases between Australia and UK.
Whatever the outcome Hull FC are not sullied by it in any way except for sad cases like yourself.
Jog on sonny.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"He was arrested and latterly charged 6 months ago on his arrival back in Australia, do keep up dear boy.
The arrest warrant was not made until he'd already made his debut AND currently he is still innocent until proven guilty, typically for people like you, you presume guilt before a trial before ones peers, shows you up for the total {very rude word removed} that you are. I bet you're the type that would convict someone just by the way they appear.
Whilst at the club he was a model professional, the club did not know about what he was allegedly involved in (before he signed/played) and so far only a recent statement by a friend so he can get himself a reduced conviction is the only 'evidence', this is what the police are relying on because if they had had some actual hard evidence they would have extradited Michaels at the earliest opportunity some three years ago, this has happened a fair few times for drugs cases between Australia and UK.
Whatever the outcome Hull FC are not sullied by it in any way except for sad cases like yourself.
Jog on sonny.'"
Aren't you on a warning for personal abuse?
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| On the naughty step like me lol
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| I thought it was common knowledge that Michael's would be arrested as soon as he landed back in Australia
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| Do keep up dear boy Knocker
[urlhttp://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-10/former-nrl-player-steve-michaels-to-stand-trial-alleged-cocaine/9746122[/url
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And knock it off with the name calling too.
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| Kelly is on the Amalfi Coast at the moment so think hes definitely injured
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| Quote ="Chris28"Do keep up dear boy Knocker
[urlhttp://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-10/former-nrl-player-steve-michaels-to-stand-trial-alleged-cocaine/9746122[/url
Posted yesterday.
And knock it off with the name calling too.'"
Oh and you wade right in with exactly the same tack .
I made a simple statement defending the club after the Leeds supporter having a pop, I pointed out that he was arrested and charged 6 months ago, the Leeds supporter made out as if this had only just happened so I am up to speed and pointed this out in the post for accuracy.
You need to read properly and target the person (cmonyouhull) for posting an inflammatory/off topic post when I simply gave the Leeds fan the facts regarding the matter and said he was sad for posting what he did when it was an attack on the club without grounds and two faced given leeds have employed convicted criminals.
Did you actually read what I'd already pointed out?
And if you are saying calling someone 'sad' is name calling please apply the same level of enforcement throughout the forum, there is a hell of a lot worse being said to posters without a murmour.
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"Kelly is on the Amalfi Coast at the moment so think hes definitely injured
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Oh and you wade right in with exactly the same tack
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I made a simple statement defending the club after the Leeds supporter having a pop, I pointed out that he was arrested and charged 6 months ago, the Leeds supporter made out as if this had only just happened so I am up to speed and pointed this out in the post for accuracy.
You need to read properly and target the person (cmonyouhull) for posting an inflammatory/off topic post when I simply gave the Leeds fan the facts regarding the matter and said he was sad for posting what he did when it was an attack on the club without grounds and two faced given leeds have employed convicted criminals.
Did you actually read what I'd already pointed out?
And if you are saying calling someone 'sad' is name calling please apply the same level of enforcement throughout the forum, there is a hell of a lot worse being said to posters without a murmour.'"
So there
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