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| Quote ="westdock boy in oz"Agree with most of this , but `on field performances' - same?
Think if you compare the same fixtures to last year, we'd be about 3rd - & still in the cup'"
Not sure how you work that out!
Too may variables to compare performances against the same team (with different players) from one season to the next.
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| as many on here know i mostly always look on the positive side, but the last 4 matches we have played cas widnes salford twice, 3 of them at home, we won 1 and are out of the cup, i honestly thought we would win 3 of those , gutted. but as always if we can get back on the horse we have a chance to climb the table, BUT we have to start winning and very very soon
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| Quote ="westdock boy in oz"Agree with most of this , but `on field performances' - same?
Think if you compare the same fixtures to last year, we'd be about 3rd - & still in the cup'"
Changing our style to a more attacking was always going to take time, I actually think our performances have been as good as las year so far, still don't think we will be far off last seasons position.
Certainly more enjoyable watching Hull this year than previous 5 plus years.
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| Quote ="GEvans75"The investment in youth is definitely a plus.
And certainly better value than overpaid Aussie mercenaries.
The performances against Wigan/ Huddersfield last year where nothing short of disgraceful.
This year niled at home by widnes and out of the Cup.
Apathy is spreading through a lot of supporters.'"
So are we in decline or not?
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| Quote ="Red Adair"Pearson said after the last Wembley defeat ' we are going back next season and we will win it ' not very good that really is it ?
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More lies from our friends who haven't even appeared in a major final for nearly 30 years.
This is the article, can you tell me were he says we will win in next year?
Or do you mean this quote?
"It is a major final, we've been to Wembley, we've seen what it's like. We want to come back here next year and win it this time."
I await your response.
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| Quote ="Dave K."So are we in decline or not?'"
No. Same situation as most years. Able to beat most teams on the day but inconsistent against teams you should beat. This is not a criticism. Until there is stablity at the club (the same as us) there will be the constant state of flux. We will put in the odd shock victory against better teams but not often enough to get anywhere. Both of us will finish in the 8 but struggle to get further.
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| Quote ="meatpaste"No. Same situation as most years. Able to beat most teams on the day but inconsistent against teams you should beat. This is not a criticism. Until there is stablity at the club (the same as us) there will be the constant state of flux. We will put in the odd shock victory against better teams but not often enough to get anywhere. Both of us will finish in the 8 but struggle to get further.'"
And if we dont finish in the top 6 we will have gone backwards
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| Quote ="meatpaste"No. Same situation as most years. Able to beat most teams on the day but inconsistent against teams you should beat. This is not a criticism. Until there is stablity at the club (the same as us) there will be the constant state of flux. We will put in the odd shock victory against better teams but not often enough to get anywhere. Both of us will finish in the 8 but struggle to get further.'"
Can't argue with any of that. On the pitch we haven't improved enough since AP came in, off the pitch we are a thousand times better off.
Saw a good tweet earlier, when Gary Hetherington took over at Leeds, it took them 8 years to win a GF, they have since won 6, it took time at Leeds to build from the bottom and we are doing the same at Hull.
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| Quote ="meatpaste"No. Same situation as most years. Able to beat most teams on the day but inconsistent against teams you should beat. This is not a criticism. Until there is stablity at the club (the same as us) there will be the constant state of flux. We will put in the odd shock victory against better teams but not often enough to get anywhere. Both of us will finish in the 8 but struggle to get further.'"
Yep. Theres a long transition period for both teams.
I'm very happy with the building of our young players and blooding of them. We've got a great future thats for sure.
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| Quote ="Dave K."So are we in decline or not?'"
Yes we are, and when SL splits next year you'll see how far.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Can't argue with any of that. =#FF0000Off the pitch we haven't improved enough since AP came in, =#FF0000off the pitch we are a thousand times better off.
Saw a good tweet earlier, when Gary Hetherington took over at Leeds, it took them 8 years to win a GF, they have since won 6, it took time at Leeds to build from the bottom and we are doing the same at Hull.'"
Covering all bases?
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| Quote ="hullbg"Covering all bases?'"
OK you caught me, off for a quick edit.
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| Quote ="GEvans75"Yes we are, and when SL splits next year you'll see how far.'"
No problem with your opinion, but explain to me how the club has declined over the last few years?
I bet this season and next we finish in the top 8.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The bin man is our best three quarter.'"
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| Quote ="Dave K."More lies from our friends who haven't even appeared in a major final for nearly 30 years.
This is the article, can you tell me were he says we will win in next year?
Or do you mean this quote?
"It is a major final, we've been to Wembley, we've seen what it's like. We want to come back here next year and win it this time."
I await your response.'"
Said it live on the radio bud, not sure how you quote that mind but plenty of people heard it and commented on here about it at the time as it was a pretty silly thing to say when all things considered
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| Quote ="Dave K."Need to look to the future, we must ahve one of the youngest sides in SL, with lots more players coming through. Radford needs to use this season to get young players some game time, needs to stick with Crooks, Rankin, Shaul and Miller and give them a chance. Same goes for Bowden and Hadley.
For his faults, Crooks is an oustanding talent especially in attack, no point in replacing him at Centre with horne or Whiting, Ok we might win the odd game because of it, but long term it is better playing these players and givign them time.
Saints did this last year and struggled, now they are seeing the benefits.'"
I agree with this. We have some good young players with potential on our books. Give them game time, let them develop. Might not be pretty in the short term but we'll see the rewards even as early as next season.
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| Quote ="Kosh"He won't be able to reply any time soon. Or indeed ever.'"
Has he been banned Kosh? Has Christmas come early?
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| Quote ="sandy"Said it live on the radio bud, not sure how you quote that mind but plenty of people heard it and commented on here about it at the time as it was a pretty silly thing to say when all things considered'"
If someone can find me a copy I will believe it, all I have to go on is the HDM article.
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| Quote ="ccs"As I've already said before, when 10 players were missing last week, how do you bring them back into the team without making changes?'"
You can't pin all his changes on injuries and suspensions. He's been tinkering with the squad every week. Dropping Rankin for Heremeia in the halves for example, Whiting missing out last night etc.
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| Quote ="Doc Brown"You can't pin all his changes on injuries and suspensions. He's been tinkering with the squad every week. Dropping Rankin for Heremeia in the halves for example, Whiting missing out last night etc.'" So you're saying Radford should make no changes.
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| Quote ="Doc Brown"You can't pin all his changes on injuries and suspensions. He's been tinkering with the squad every week. Dropping Rankin for Heremeia in the halves for example, Whiting missing out last night etc.'"
As a new Head Coach he's looking for his best and most reliable team. Might not be pretty in the short term but maybe medium term there will be results to copy your own suggestion. He's tried to be loyal in certain areas but has been let down in my opinion.
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| Quote ="ccs"So you're saying Radford should make no changes.'"
We're eight games in (12 if you count the friendlies). I personally think Radders should have a better idea of his preferred 17 by now and I'm not convinced that's the case. He might not be able to play players due to injuries and suspensions but he still seems to be tinkering with the players that are fit. I also think some of his decisions in team selection have been questionable at times. Hadley an unused sub against Widnes for example.
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| Quote ="hullbg"www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Adam-Pearson-Hull-FC-year-winners/story-19709080-detail/story.html
The headline says it but in the article i dont see Pearson quoted as saying it.'"
first sentence:
HULL FC owner Adam Pearson says his club will strengthen at the end of the season in a bid to return to Wembley next year as Challenge Cup winners
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"It is a major final, we've been to Wembley, we've seen what it's like. We want to come back here next year and win it this time."
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| Quote ="Standee"first sentence:
HULL FC owner Adam Pearson says his club will strengthen at the end of the season in a bid to return to Wembley next year as Challenge Cup winners
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"It is a major final, we've been to Wembley, we've seen what it's like. We want to come back here next year and win it this time."'"
so he doesn't say we will win it then, just would like to win it.
Surely ever chairman would say that.
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