This getting to be like drawing teeth now

he's been boring me crapless for days now

Ah well, I've tried to ignore the childish insults from those less able, but as Ian's the Captain of team thicko it looks like his crap's been leaking out onto the board for a while.

I don't find it much of a surprise to see people reading and posting on a thread they find dull.

Shouldn't you be in Brighton?

That'll be the Costello that was passed over as a Council option as it wouldn't get planning permission would it? Some over there, eh?

Why?

FFS, talk about being a stuck record. No wonder the kids are getting bored.



I refer you back to the other replies that point out you're looking at it back to front.

How recently?

Why? Do you feel things will have changed?

If you mean a couple of years ago, probably not. If you're talking about a decade or more, and since then the council, who grant planning consent, have offered it with consent for sporting activities, then definitely yes. Planning policy and consent considerations and decisions do change over time in line with alternative options and new developments.

You appear to have cloth ears at either side of your jam jar spectacles.

The meeting was not just Geraghty and Allam. I'm still waiting, over a week later, for your acknowledgement that, in fact, the council were more than represented - by experts - when I posted this last Friday:

Answered within a short time of the last time you posted it cloth head.



I'll not bore everyone by posting the same answer to the same response.

Policy may change, but it's a slow and dependent on the strategy. If you're claiming the circumstance have changed and things such as the potential traffic problems have been resolved, I'd be interested to read them.

Why not? You've done nothing but chant the same mantra from the moment you joined the discussion

You've still not answered my question. I [uassume [/uyou are saying that 10+ years ago, there were planning (mainly traffic) reasons why a stadium for all the city's professional clubs couldn't be sited at Costello. This is an irrelevance now because City and FC play at the KC . The council offered Mr Allam Costello for his [uSporting Village[/u, not for the relocation of the KC. Mr Allam wants to provide sporting facilities of an ice rink, swimming pool and squash courts to the city as a gift. The council have offered him Costello as a venue. The traffic issue for a Sporting Village would be far far less than for a stadium housing both professional clubs, surely that's obvious?

If you're so stupid that, no matter what response you get you keep asking the same question, it doesn't surprise me you're bored of reading the same answer.

If only it was that simple.

Out of interest, did the Council offer Costello or did Cllr Geraghty do it? What's the value of the Costello site?

On the contrary, noodle brain, you didn't acknowledge the fact that there were five expert council representatives at that meeting, not just "one individual" who made a unilateral decision.

Sorry, I am going to bore everyone by repeating your evasive drivel. Here's what you said (I'll do it small so it takes up less valuable space):
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Not one mention of Councillor Bayes or the other specialists. In fact, no acknowledgement of the size of the meeting, the length of time it took, the fact that Allam declined to share his pretty artist's impression, the fact that Allam had no proposals to discuss....

I'll ask again, simply:

Do you admit that there was more than "one individual" representing the council at the meeting at the end of which Mr Allam - not the council - declared [url=http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Sports-village-talks-council-rejects-stadium-sale/story-13417465-detail/story.html"That is my final word on the subject. As far as I am concerned the matter is now closed."[/url

It's not complicated, is it? You said the insurmountable stumbling block for Costello was that consent wasn't granted over a decade ago to house 2 or even 3 professional clubs due to associated traffic congestion. It's pretty obvious that an alternative site for a sporting village (not including a stadium for professional clubs) would be an entirely different proposition from a planning consent perspective, and the council would know this before tabling the proposal. As WorminHand has said, more than once, Cllr Geraghty was NOT the lone council representative in the last meeting.

I don't know the value of the Costello site. I would imagine it would be less than the land round the KC, but valuations depend on consent granted. A1 food consent (eg for supermarkets, which it has recently emerged is part of the £3,000 plans we've not yet seen) significantly increases value of land.

You post as if that's news or makes a difference. Oh well, previous answer, repeated yet again.



"Nothing contrary at all, the party and Council leaders published views are contrary to the recent opinion of the one person.

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Mr Allam's reaction was in response to the way he was treat.

So the so called unseen plans provide enough information to predict the impact of the development on Costello? It's acceptable to gift the Costello land, but not the KC stadium?

There's an important difference here you seem to be missing. The council offered that Costello could be a site for the Sporting Village "gift". They were less keen on gifting the land for the supermarket/restaurant/boutique development. I'm not sure what your point is on the impact of the squash courts/ice rink on Costello.

According to Allam, and to some degree confirmed by Cllr Geraghty's interview, the so called boutique version was never really a serious proposition. Some of the sports developments, such as the ice rink, appeared to be obstructions, so consideration was given to their removal. It would seem this was latched on as an offer, rather than a suggestion. It's just another red herring.

Allam talked about "wives going the to the supermarket" on the development, didn't he?

Yes, but that doesn't preclude anything else from being in the development.

Some people have got far too hung up on some of the words and latch on like limpets to the soundbites.

It's possible the whole thing would have come to nothing at some point, but I'll say again, for me the issue is the way it's been handled.

We need money to redevelop that area. I've yet to see the councils plans, but those rusty street lights at the park entrance hardly fill me with the belief that they have a grand plan. Having one offered should have lead to more investigation of the options, not some shabby half truths on a two bob radio show and local rag.