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| Quote ="Raggytash"It must be hard to have to put up with all the negativity throughout your long stay here. It must really get to you that in between all of your 8 posts there is nothing positive coming from us!'"
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never cease to be amazed how many seem to enjoy it when we get beaten so they can come on here and vent their anger behind their PCs using their alter egos to man up their lack of backbone , same ones who sat at home and watched on tv no doubt'"
So come on then, who are you?
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| dont realy think horne matters. 50k of his wages dont count on the cap and wer not going to get any1 better for the cap wage. His loyalty earns us a 50k headstart so may aswell give him another season to bounce back and just see what happpens. If he kicks on n becomes a class act again wer laughing, if it turns out he is finished then fair enough hes had his chance. Win win if u ask me
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| Quote ="EXPRO"Ok then, so lets say tomorrow Mrs Hethrington decides she has had enough of titts like you and pulls her cash and interests out of the club then where are we ??'"
What cash? All directors loans have been repaid. The hetheringtons don't even hold a majority shareholding. Anyway, the problem is agar, not the board so stop trying to be his shiit deflector
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"What cash? All directors loans have been repaid. The hetheringtons don't even hold a majority shareholding. Anyway, the problem is agar, not the board so stop trying to be his shiit deflector'"
The board are just as responsible for the carp that the team serves up as is Agar. They employed him, gave him a contract for almost 3 seasons to prove himself, yet after almost 2 seasons of showing he wasn't good enough, they give him another 2 years on top. This tells you how much the board really care about winning things.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"What cash? All directors loans have been repaid. The hetheringtons don't even hold a majority shareholding. Anyway, the problem is agar, not the board so stop trying to be his shiit deflector'"
When did the Hetheringtons sell some shares because they were the majority shareholders when it was discussed on here last year.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"When did the Hetheringtons sell some shares because they were the majority shareholders when it was discussed on here last year.'"
I thought the same !
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"When did the Hetheringtons sell some shares because they were the majority shareholders when it was discussed on here last year.'"
I believe our relative accountant can post the shareholdings. Fairly sure she did recently and the hetheringtons weren't the biggest shareholder
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I believe our relative accountant can post the shareholdings. Fairly sure she did recently and the hetheringtons weren't the biggest shareholder'"
My memory is hazy, but I think Kath maybe had the biggest individual shareholding, but the Weatherills had more shares combined. I could just be making that up as well.
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| our squad aint to bad tbh, weve just got an average coach at best in charge( the cheap option), look at wigan i woundt say its that much better then ours on paper and theres a few teams with better squads on paper but they hired a top coach with an attacking policy wich is an exciting brand of rugby and there clinical at all aspects of there play attack and defence. players such as horne,yeamen,briscoe,tansey ect would flurish under an attacking brand of rugby. we are a big club with a top class stadium, big fan base, good youth system ect ect but we need to spend some of this money on a top class coach. then judge players wether they good enough or not. there is players that are not good enough but under a top coach majority of players would flurish.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"My memory is hazy, but I think Kath maybe had the biggest individual shareholding, but the Weatherills had more shares combined. I could just be making that up as well.'"
Think that's right. Does Gawy still have some?
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"My memory is hazy, but I think Kath maybe had the biggest individual shareholding, but the Weatherills had more shares combined. I could just be making that up as well.'"
No, you're correct, the Weatherills have 40% between them compared to Kath's 30%:
John Weatherill 211,034 26%
Pauline Weatherill 115,319 14%
Jack Coupe 107,662 13%
David Fulton 141,352 17%
Kath Heatherington 245,033 30%
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"No, you're correct, the Weatherills have 40% between them compared to Kath's 30%:
John Weatherill 211,034 26%
Pauline Weatherill 115,319 14%
Jack Coupe 107,662 13%
David Fulton 141,352 17%
Kath Heatherington 245,033 30%
Total 820,400 100%'"
So for a "buy-out" would they have to buy out the Weatherill's for full control Mrs B?
If thats the case then the "Hetherington out" mob will be wasting thier voices.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"So for a "buy-out" would they have to buy out the Weatherill's for full control Mrs B?
If thats the case then the "Hetherington out" mob will be wasting thier voices.'"
For a controlling share they'd need more than 50% in any combination I guess. I've absolutely no idea how the arrangement between these 5 was put together though or how committed the shareholders are or whether any/all of them would be looking to sell. The valuation of the business now though will be increased as we more or less have have got out of a net liabilities position (ie the value of our assets = the value of our liabilities, taking out the controversial player valuations), plus the club has demonstrated the ongoing profitability potential of the business by making 5 consecutive years of profit. As sporting investments of this size go, I'd guess ours is relatively low risk, but haven't heard for some time of anyone interested in buying.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"So for a "buy-out" would they have to buy out the Weatherill's for full control Mrs B?
If thats the case then the "Hetherington out" mob will be wasting thier voices.'"
Are we having a collection?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Quote ="fc baldy"So for a "buy-out" would they have to buy out the Weatherill's for full control Mrs B?
If thats the case then the "Hetherington out" mob will be wasting thier voices.'"
For a controlling share they'd need more than 50% in any combination I guess. I've absolutely no idea how the arrangement between these 5 was put together though or how committed the shareholders are or whether any/all of them would be looking to sell. The valuation of the business now though will be increased as we more or less have have got out of a net liabilities position (ie the value of our assets = the value of our liabilities, taking out the controversial player valuations), plus the club has demonstrated the ongoing profitability potential of the business by making 5 consecutive years of profit. As sporting investments of this size go, I'd guess ours is relatively low risk, but haven't heard for some time of anyone interested in buying.'"
More than 50% gives you a controlling interest but not control.
Anyone who holds more than 25% of the shares in a company can block a "special resolution" which is where a 75% majority is needed to implement certain changes.
For example, anyone coming in and buying both the Weatherill's shares and Kath's would still only have 70%.
Anyone buying all the shares except Kath's would have a minority shareholder who could block more than a few of their plans if she was minded to do so.
Do we want a board where no-one has total control as now or do we want a major shareholder who effectively owns the club and can do what he likes? This might be someone like Leneghan or the guy at Wire (whose name escapes me) but equally it could be another David Llloyd.
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| Quote ="robert johnson".......wow you come in for some stick on here dont you!!youre really fighting a losing battle with these guys though.they want this guy out(and half the team) and nothings gonna change that.theres no reasoning with a lynch mob..keep your posts coming though!.it makes a change from all the negativity'"
always the same faces erm usernames tho isnt it, its like running a kennel for mongrels trying to talk sense to some on here..
in any walk of life there is always the mob that follows the piper because they are too illiterate to think for themselves
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| Quote ="EXPRO"always the same faces erm usernames tho isnt it, its like running a kennel for mongrels trying to talk sense to some on here..
in any walk of life there is always the mob that follows the piper because they are too illiterate to think for themselves'"
Oh dear! I'm afraid being literate or not does not affect your ability to think, just your ability to read and write. I'm not in the habit of following the grammar/spelling police, but you are one of the less literate posters on here. Does this affect your ability to think?
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| Quote ="EXPRO"always the same faces erm usernames tho isnt it, its like running a kennel for mongrels trying to talk sense to some on here..
in any walk of life there is always the mob that follows the piper because they are too illiterate to think for themselves'"
And there are those who are so blind to the blazingly obvious
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| Quote ="Raggytash"Oh dear! I'm afraid being literate or not does not affect your ability to think, just your ability to read and write. I'm not in the habit of following the grammar/spelling police, but you are one of the less literate posters on here. Does this affect your ability to think?'"
No, it doesn't. The fact that he's mildly retarded takes care of that.
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| Quote ="Raggytash"Oh dear! I'm afraid being literate or not does not affect your ability to think, just your ability to read and write. I'm not in the habit of following the grammar/spelling police, but you are one of the less literate posters on here. Does this affect your ability to think?'"
no just posting in between of working so do it quickly and cant be bothered or see you as important enough to spell check , but hey thanks for jumping in and protecting your girl !!
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| =#FF0000OK - I've been writing PMs but this thread looks like a good place for a general request.
Can we all cut out the squabbling please. It's clogging up threads and isn't really necessary.
Ta.
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| Quote ="Kosh"=#FF0000OK - I've been writing PMs but this thread looks like a good place for a general request.
Can we all cut out the squabbling please. It's clogging up threads and isn't really necessary.
Ta.'"
No worries
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| Quote ="UllFC"Players I feel we need to ship out are:
Berrigan: Massive pay, very average, struggles to make an impact on games when we are on the backfoot.
Horne: Still has value as a utility player, but I dread to think what we are paying him for his weekly contribution of 'run and drop the shoulder dummy' and defensive work.
Dowes: Too small, makes no impact
Cusack: One of the weakest imports I've ever seen. Does nothing wrong as such, and makes little errors...but he's painfully dull and now very slow as well.
Lauaki: Its clear to see why noone in the NRL wanted him, poor defensively, questionable temperament, and he isn't even breaking tackles like he was earlier in the year.
Hall: Enough threads about him already...looks a good prospect playing the poor sides, looks shocking when faced with good opposition.
Washbrook: Could still make an average loose forward, but far too slow and predictable to be in the halves.
Obviously we can't ditch all of the above due to contracts, but the above is where our salary cap is being used badly IMO'"
cant argue with any of that judging by what weve had over the course of the season...
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