Which goes to show that the big problem Hull have is a playing squad we need rid of.Hodgson might not have been the long term answer but he certainly wasn’t the problem,and looks like Tony Smith is realising this too

Who would you have liked to have been appointed coach instead. I'm not being sarcastic.

It's irrelevant. He'd just whinge anyway

I have to disagree. Part of the problem is the appalling recruitment under his tenure. And he must shoulder at least some of the blame.

Smiths having abit of class isnt he, not airing dirty laundry in public, doesnt mean we l not see changes. The players have downed tools already but how will we attract new players if the coach starts hammering his players in the press.

Hes dropped Evans, Mcintosh, Lane, Lovodua and Savelio so isnt sat on his hands. Give the guy time he l sort it in a dignfied manner

All time low bagging rites even for you. 7 games in with a e squad he’s inherited and you lambaste him. Tex Hoy is your new focus, makes a change from hammering the centres. I’ve said it before and will say it again, your not a supporter just a whinger, your posts on this and other threads, over the last day prove that. I for one have been downcast but as the day gets nearer the old FC in me says we’re gonna win a close Derby.

Look its not just the 7 games though is it.He has had a full pre season with these players and i think we all agree they are not as fit as other teams,have forgotton how to tackle or cant be bothered,and the defense is a shambles
You will remember and when i was a young kid we had a coach called Brian Smith who inherited a bunch of very average players yet he molded that team into a team that competed because the defense was so good.
As a coach coming in to a e squad (your words not mine) defense should have been the priority.
Dont forget i was happy to see Smith come in but what he has done so far is disappointing.The same is what i think of Hoy disappointing and as i have said when Litten went to full back recently following a re shuffle he showed more in 20 mintues than i have seen from Hoy

If you want to trawl my posts you will see i was happy with Smith appointment.
My concern is after a full pre season with these players and not just the seven games they are getting worse not better

If we could get Philbin in for Sao or Satae, I'd be happy, particularly I it was a long term deal.

I'd also take Edwards on a short term deal for Lovodua.

Would give us a quota spot too and if we could release Shaul or loan out someone like Wynne we could bring in another forward like Alvero.

We lost our first three games under Brian Smith and six out of the first nine. We were in the bottom four for the first four months of the season. It took him time to get the team playing the way he wanted. I imagine in those early months there were some supporters thinking we'd made a mistake bringing him in as coach.

Just shows how far this club has fallen when we are being linked with Vete and Kenny Edwards

Would hope the Edwards rumour has no legs. Smith talks about trying to improve our discipline and defence, signing Edwards would make us worse.

He can be a handful, but more often than not he's a liability.

He's contracted until 25 too, I hope he stays at Cas to see his deal out

Philbin on the other hand has the potential to be a good signing.

Philbin would be a step in the righjt direction but can't see us signing him.especially now Mikalele has gone back to Australia.

Only way I could see it is if Sao or Satae head there, but it does seem a long shot

As a Warrington fan a swap isn't impossible.... Satae or sao need a freshen up as they don't become bad players just like that ... Philbin could probably go and do a good non quota job for you .... I still think we are after tanginoa first though as the target

Hull want Tanginoa also,but Wakefield won’t let him go at any price until at least end of the season

Wire or FC. Wonder where Tanginoa would choose to if given the option?

KeithThe Red:
Wire or FC. Wonder where Tanginoa would choose to if given the option?

Yes thats a good question,Keith. Since 2013, in the last decade for example, Warrington have played in 5 finals , winning once, while we have been in 3, winning only two and then we can also mention we finished above them last year in the SL table, so it could be a close call .
Could be whomever is offering the better salary, as in most job options, taking sentiment aside.
How many have the WCC elect Rovers appeared in, during that period and how did that one go for you Keith?

Edwards is a good player offers strike we haven't got

Not sure philbin is that much better than what we have always been just a bit part player at wire

"Potential" he's nearly 30 ( which surprised me thought he was younger than 28 )

Not sure about your finals info. Haven’t wire won more cups than one? Also have league leaders shield. More importantly at the moment they have the cash to develop the squad. They have better players. They are top you are firmly entrenched on 10. No competition really.

All depends on what security the player wants.


He can give half d permfornaces and get 3 year contracts here or be released at wire after an average season.

Edwards is a liability in defence and has been targeted alot......


Do we really need another.

Terrible signing its the type of signing you make if you want to be relegated , we need much better

Have you not seen Edwards this season? he's finished as a super league player.
As i say, just shows how far we have fallen if we are targeting him