28/10 up 20 min to play. Implode. Then win it again and then blow it. Shaul for me isn't the main problem . Made a try and scored one. Houghton great player but no captain. Sneyd was not a happy chappy at the end. I think he called there play but got no reaction. We needed a strong captain today and we havnt got one.

The hom win/loss ratio must be pretty poor for the last 2 years or so

Since the start of 2018 in the league at home our record is P31 W14 L17.

We weren't even that great in 2016/2017 both P15 W9 L6 (2016 we won 10/14 away).

Since 2015 our home record in the league is P75 W37 L38

Better than I thought tbh

Back in 2012 we only lost 1 and drew 2 at home (to the eventual top 3 of Wigan Wire and Saints) the KC was a fortress. Yes we ended up 6th as away form wasnt anywhere near as good...but given a choice of home wins or away you'd chose home all the time for the better income from better crowds.

It was a game we won twice, then lost at the end which broke Hulls hearts yesterday. The absence of Swift and Jones must of been late calls which further weakened us, and Jake getting injures didn’t help, although Carlos was great replacing him. When Scotty goes off, does he go for his dinner, as his prolonged absence on match day after his first stint is way to long. We were undone by the rampaging Sam Kasiano, we couldn’t control big Sam, then little Sam decided to show us, he’s not a wxxxxr after all, will we ever learn.
Then Maloney showed us how halfbacks can run, and thus a bleak silence fell on West Hull, a very disappointing end to a game which was stolen from us, partly by ineptitude, mostly by a team who showed more mental aptitude and desire.

I know Kasiano played well, but he is so effective because he runs on to the ball at speed, but they run in 2's. It means that we cannot commit 3 players to tackle Kasiano, when Bosquet or Casty is running with him. It means he can get a quick play the ball. We run in 1's, all the time. No support, no prop pushing through in support of the runners. Easy to defend against

Think you need to define 'Run' as I'd say we just plod forward with no pace at all. The only one he seemed to actually run the ball in with pace was Satae & Ma'u and occasionally Sao. We just don't and are never set up to run at pace as we are so slow and painful with our distribution that when a player receives the ball they are either stood still or totally flat footed.

Its the same every week we have no structure going forward and its just one out rugby the majority of the time and reliance of a Sneyd kick (whos's distribution was very poor on Sunday) or bit of magic/maverick play from Kelly or Connor, other than that there is very little. Same old same old for seasons now its nothing that's new but yet we still do not have any support play or dummy runners or players willing to run different lines.

So whilst that may be great in training it is just to predictable and easy for the opposition to snuff out.

[*Sounds like Mcnamara is the coach we need.

God only knows how we beat his team so many times last season.God only knows how we beat every single team in super league except for Saints, at least once last season(some more than once) when we're so poorly coached.

The Connor loss is interesting where I was sat Drinkwater came in on Connor with both his knees into the prone body of Connor it was opposite me in East stand the linesman stood quite close but seemed to have missed it.A professional game with amateur officials should not be allowed to continue wake up RFL and sort this out

Most sides in the league will ask forwards to run in 2's. Most sides in the league will have a full back or someone there to take an offload. Most sides in the league can create overlaps easily on a shift play to give their full back space. If you are happy with how we play, the tactics we operate with, then good for you. I expect more from a talented squad that is capable of finishing in the top 3 if we play to their strengths.

Are you saying our full back isn't there to receive an offload? If so, then how do you explain his try from less than 24 hours ago?

1 swallow doesn't make a summer. How many times do we look for an offload and find nobody there??

So even when they do what you demand, it's still not good enough?

I posted on a different thread, that some fans are happy with one offs. Sneyd's drop goal to potentially win the game would be lauded, yet his missed tackle attempts, poor last tackle kicks, and his inability to create anywhere near the level of chances in the opposition 20 that our competitors halves do would be forgotten about.

Shaul backing up (finally!) would overshadow the blind alley's he runs into, the space he takes away from his centre and his winger on shift plays, compared to our competitors full backs.

If we praise them, we need to criticise their deficiencies too. When Wigan fans are coming on to the forum last week and saying that Shaul is the issue with our attacking structure, it says a lot

well said Lee

For sure

I don't seem to be able to find any post match interview from Radford anywhere.
Has he not done one?

blunderside did one which they linked to on twitter. He didn't sound like someone who thought he'd be sacked any time soon

Found it!
Cheers Peggy

That’s probably part of the problem as to why nothing ever seems to change as it’s just all to cozy and comfortable from top to bottom.

Pity Adam Pearson doesnt move Andy Last to coaching the Reserves, and Purtill to coach our attack..

I cannot believe,we have brought in an external attack coach, and its still the same turgid, boring dross.. as described above..

Unless Purtill came in and said, "yeah, those structures are fantastic - keep them"

Seems like he has been cast aside as it was an AP decision and LR was reluctant to get the help

I read in the media, that AP wanted an external appointment for an attack coach, LR said, there was nothing in the budget for a new backroom coach. meaning Radford wanted one of his mate's to be added to the staff.
I listened to Dave Woods's podcast, with Radford & Last, they seem to be joined at the hip.
As Last said "Lee's got my back, and I've got his" - maybe Purtill is/was a threat to Last's position..

We are starting to get into the realms of wild speculation and conspiracy here.