What's happening with taylor? Only a short stint last night. Is it just match fitness or is he still carrying an injury?

I thought the bench (apart from griffin) were poor last night and the game swung away from us after the first round of interchanges

Taylor still looks rusty imo. Griffin looked very good when he came of the bench

He didn't do too many minutes against Cas either, I hope it is match fitness and easing him back because if he's still carrying a niggle and only using him for short stints really isn't ideal.

Sure he's a big miss when he's on it but playing a replacement that can do full stints is more valuable to the team as a whole over the 80minutes.
Turgut as I've said before I'm still not convinced by and again he showed his true colours getting involved, for a young lad making his way in RL too readily does he get involved in off the ball incidents, he's racked up quite a few this season I've noticed. Agression is good, but controlled agression and not being a grubby type, late shoulder charges and other previous incidents this season says to me his temperament isn't all that.

He'll be the new Knocker. He'll develop into an excellent ball handling forward, not afraid to go where the action is. This type of player, is essential in the forwards. All good teams need one or two.

If you can't see what's in front of you that's a shame. Going to be a top player. Coming in rough and a bit over exuberant is fine. I'd rather that than timid. Aggression can be curbed and maturity kicks in. Cant teach some1 timid to be aggressive
His carry and pass for talanoas try was very very top end. Ran a few great lines. 1 very close to a try and then bagged 1. A good game from him

Griffin is our ready made replacement for Fonua imo
Centre/winger with an offload in him like mahe and got big metres in him. His metres a carry is among the very best in league. Better than mahe even. I'd have him on the wing next year for sure if we can't bring any1 of quality in

Turgut could be our carl ablett. You might hate him but he does he'll of a job for leeds and if he's half as good we'll have a great player.I like the fact he's young but not scared to mix it. Just needs to be a little smarter at times

regarding Turget I thought he had an excellent game last night his pass to set Talanoa and the lube he was running all night which saw him rewarded with a try. He is not overly aggressive and seems to be more controlled since been carded at the start of the season. I'd rather have a young player that won't be slapped/pushed around and has the confidence to mix it/stand up for himself and the team as Fonua did after Huby swung the arm at Michaels.
Turget for me has all the attributes to become a top player.

I am really hoping that Turgut can become our established and star second row for the futureThat said i have seen nothing special yet that gets me excited.
he scored a decent try last night but no one has mentioned his feeble defensive effort for their 2nd and 3rd tries.
Turgut and Fash have done well over the last weeks but may suffer from been overplayed if we dont get Ellis and Green back.

Turgut is still only 21 and still probably has 5 years of development before he reaches his peak years. How many 21 years olds are the finished article?

No doubt the freakish Bateman will shortly be trotted out at the only relevant comparator

I thought Turgut has a mixed game last night, set up and scored a good try, but struggled a bit with his defence at times. I like his niggle, but does need to control it some what.

Going to be a quality player though, think he has something special about him, the one poster being critical of him probably didn't even go last night and has the history of being wrong about players, Talanoa, Fonua and Connor being recent examples.