Don't disagree on our handling. Radford said "It was a really bizarre game and I'm pleased with the way we built our first-half lead up but then in the second period we very much went into our shell.

"We relied on one-out rugby and ended up hanging on for dear life. It was a fantastic 39 minutes but we ended up thanking the rugby Gods at the end of it. Errors cost us again like last week at Wigan."

I thought 1st half was ok and built up a lead but similar to last week at Wigan we let the lead slip by mistakes from dropped ball to stupid penalties. Its almost as if we think the games won and take the foot of the gas then when the opposition get some momentum we panic.

Wigan whether understrength or not are no mugs and neither are Warrington despite their start to the season and to have taken 3 out 4pts from those games is a good return. Think this season we are seeing that everyone can beat each other and no games will be that easy.

disappointing second half again, no possession at all hardly and when we did have it we wasted it, 8 points up, go for goal instead of going for another set to have some possession, mahe kicking the ball dead in a good position, last season i reckon he would have taken the defenders over the line with him if he ran at them

credit to warrington though, they did look something like the old warrington team of last season in the second half, wouldnt be surprised to if they beat leeds next week

only gripe about the ref was the ball steal on mini in the second half, clear professional foul imo and should've been a sin binning! stopped a quick ptb and a possible try as their players were nowhere to be seen!

I agree that its very competitive this year, today you had Widnes get their first win away at Leigh who have been doing well for example.

At the start of the season you'd have looked at our next few games Salford, Leeds, Leigh and Cas and expected 3 wins from 4, but im not so sure now as all 4 teams have shown good form and we ourselves have been competitive in every game.

Exactly, all very difficult, and that's how it should be. Standard (Cas apart) may have been questionable in the early stages but the competitiveness of the comp with lots of tight games decided late on is great.

Again with the negativity before the game is over, same as Wigan, same as other games this season and we have lost how many?
You whine about others negativity but can't help yourself when we have a poor patch in a game and xome out with the doom and gloom/we've lost this type comments.
You'd think we were bottom of the league with 1 point the way you post at times.

Don't want excuses that DH is the difference, simply we weren't good enough over the 80 minutes for the win and a Warrington with a few more wins on the board would likely have won.
Physical fatigue breeds mental fatigue but making critical/basic errors seemingly are creeping back into our play which stems back to huddersfield.
Radford really needs to get a grip on this and find a solution because with better sides the likelihood is we won't get away with a 40 minute performance.

it's most definitely a point dropped, the likes of Shaun Wane wouldn't be thinking it was a point gained that's for sure even with a load of kids playing.

if we're this knackered at this point in the season that is a bit worrying though dropping off in the second half two games on the trot.
Hopefully with Hadley back that'll help, resting Taylor is important as others have said.

Take it with a pinch of sale. I bet Mrs. B only does it to wind you up!!

Yet no too long ago you were accusing me of loving Radford and being blinkered

Which am I, apologist or negativist? Please decide, you can't have it both ways.

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TBF you could feel the momentum draining away. Did very well to hang on.

At a time when Radford was taking us backward at a rate of knots, a couple of places off relegation but yeah the comparison is totally the same...not!
it's your in game negativity I'm talking about, every single game if we have a bad spell you come out with 'we've lost the game' type comments, that's not something i do/did.
yet only last week you showed your annoyance at fans negativity yet hypocritacally were doing the very same only a few minutes earlier in the same thread saying we'd lost it before the game had even finished!

Pick one, just pick one. Apologist or miserabilist?

Let's have some anagrammatical fun.
Would you prefer to be a EIIINOPSTTT as opposed to them two?

Hopefully seen as a decent point today as the season progresses.
Radders has said a few times in post match interviews that, 'were so much better than that' and that 'there's so much more to come.'
Hope he's right because I think we'll have to be.

It's all part of the plan. Radders knew how tight it would be with any team beating any other. I, for one, am happy with how we're shaping up. I predict we will peak post round 23 (assuming we're in the dog-fight at the time!!).

Or maybe I'm just an eternal optimist!

Definitely, we'd get hammered at the business end playing like that, but all teams have improvement in them at this point in the year. Petitionist?

I knew it wouldn't take you long.


Just trying not to think what Cas might do to us if we throw in a second half performance(s) like we have been doing.

Best not to. Horrific prospect.

It's obviously good to get 3 points from trips to wigan and wire (Although a point less than the corresponding games last season) but we're really not playing well and the 2nd half capitulations in both games is worrying. We really need to start finding some form with the ball in hand or we could easily lose some games we'd expect to win. 3 tough games coming up now where we'd be looking to take 6 points but it could easily be none. Need to cut out the stupid errors and penalties

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I'm thankful we didn't lose and winning breeds confidence
We need to move onto winning big and that's an attitude change that hopefully will happen over the season
Cas Tigers are showing how to win big when you're on top
Cas v Leeds as an example

Despite Warringtons start they are no push overs ,remember they had players out for most the games and yesterday they fielded their strongest side to date.Yes the game was there to be won after a good first half but Warrington are no mugs and i think many are taking away a lot from how they played.On the error count warrington had more then Fc did but ours came at crucial times and no matter who is the coach or how you coach errors are going to happen . Taylor has come in for some stick but he was our biggest metre maker in the forwards.Thought at least one of Russels tries was dodgy {in touch} and if video ref was there he would have no been given at least one.That said we should have handled second half better but a point is a point and if we are playing that bad like some are saying we have done well to only drop three points .Salford will be a huge test and if we get past them it will give us a boost and go forward from there

Happy to take the point despite the nature of it. At the end of the day they made the first half errors and we made the second half errors. 3 points from the last 4 games is a good return.

Taylor's doing too many minutes. He'd have done less IMO if Green had been fit. Agree about Salford, they're 4th and this will be a massive test.

I don't get the 3 from 4is a good return. 3 from what could have been 4 could be a league placing or a LLS if anything like last year
Wigan and wire away are scary fixtures on paper so 3 from 4 seems good. But you play the team in front of you. We played a ridiculously under strength wigan team so you'd have to be disappointed to lose and wire have been poor and getting beat by all. And in that 1st half were in season worst form. Handed us 2 tries off errors and 12 points.
We're well off. We're near the top and it's great. But we've played 6 of the bottom 7. 3 teams with massive injury lists.
Being positive or negative about it is irrelevant now..Time has run out to find form. It happens now or April will be grim. We play the other top 4. So hopefully we rise to the challenge and we could be in a tremendous position with half the regular season done. But current season form won't cut it this month

We need to respect when we build a lead, simple as that.

It's worrying that we're falling away in the 2nd half of games. Last season we were very strong at the end of game so what's changed? radford talked pre season about not flogging the players and having a different approach so we don't burn out. Is that the reason? Whilst houghton is a massive miss, it doesn't account for us being good 1st half, dire in the 2nd for the last 2 games. Is it mental fragility, lack of leadership or us simply switching off when ahead? Whatever it is needs sorting as we have much bigger tests coming up than wigan reserves or dire wire