Well ground out by Wakey tonight, was impressed with them at their place. Saints will be well up for our game next week.

Sts are bloody awful,they have got no halfbacks,1god awful winger,2 very average centres and a soft pack,couldn't care less if they are well up for next week....we should be putting 30 + on them nxt week.They are living on former glories and have a coach who has just joined McDermott on the favourite to get the chop.

I like their pack. Zeb Taia is fab, would love him on our bench.

Saints are poor . We turn up with right attitude and Ellis back should be a win .

No it doesn't. Close to line will be shorter grabbers or lateral . Probably more chance of running on a last.

Bombs less control and still a fair risk of going dead or a broken field play

You would have thought that they'd be up for the game last night after getting turned over by Leigh last week but they just look so clueless. Even their win against Leeds was nothing impressive they're lucky to have even 2 points on the board so far.

I hope the team have a more respectful attitude than some fans on here. To suggest any team are poor shows a lack of understanding of the game.

I sincerely hope the vast majority of fans do not have this attitude otherwise the atmosphere will be flat and if we have not posted 3 try's in the first 15 mins they will get on the players backs.

Spot on mate

What would you say Sts are then?.......they are a team that are lacking in key areas and are in decline from their heyday and are living on past glories,they have a glaring weakness at halfback and that's including Matty Smith.A coach out of his depth Imo and are the lacking funds to bring players in?.If that is a lack of understanding the game then I've learned sod all in 42yrs of watching the game.

They finished level on points with us last season. It was only our better defence that meant we finished third and them fourth.

I'd hardly say they are in decline just because they've not won a trophy for a couple of years. We will be favourites on Friday but it will be a tough game, they are no easybeats.

If we go in to ANY match thinking where gonna win by 30/40 points before kick off then we will come unstuck. Yes am looking for a win on Fri but expect a tough match as I hope the players are.

They had a decent super 8s and caught up with us as we went right off boil in them.Ok maybe I was a bit over the top with 30+ and all teams are hard to beat but we should have too much all over the park for them and id never thought id say that about Sts

I agree

www.skysports.com/watch/video/sp ... 48-hull-fc Kelly talks about his fledgling partnership with Sneyd and their very different attributes in YP today.

www.skysports.com/watch/video/sp ... 48-hull-fc Kelly talks about his fledgling partnership with Sneyd and their very different attributes in YP today.

Warrington beaten 14-24 at Salford.

getting wins on the board early will be more valuable this season at this rate!

saints and wire in the bottom 4 already, early days but the bigger the gap on those clubs the better

....and Widnes draw 14-14 at Cats.

This season I think everybody is going to take points off everybody it's gonna be a topsy turvy year

Middle 8s could be a minefield this year.

My post was not a personal dig at you. However, when many comment of the lack of atmosphere at home games, I do think a factor is when fans expect a win (or a big a win) when in fact if your team are not 100% at the races the bottom placed club can turn them over.

St Helens are not the team they were, but poor is a little too far IMO. Their pack is formidable (Wilkins perhaps being the one who in reality should not be there) and as was evidenced on Friday, even in wet weather they are happy to off Lias at will.

We as a team have been turned over by teams that on paper we should have beaten for as long as I have been going (Fev 83 is still hard to understand) .

I fully accept the defeat but your all acting like you hammered a full strength Giants team. 11 of our starting 17 were on the sidelines.

Take 11 of your starting 17 out and do you think the result would be the same of a 40+ hammering?

all acting? nobody is saying we hammered a full strength hudds team, we did a job on a understrength hudds team, end of,