Nope not happy at all, just may be what Pearson is thinking! Leeds would have beat any team in that second half - but Radford as a coach shouldn't have let that happen and he should have motivated them being 12-0 up at half time...but like i said he may just be waiting to see how we do against similar opposition

I agree, he isn't given enough credit for what he did at Wigan.

Long term I'm not convinced he'd be the right man for us, but he'd certainly be better than what we've got and would do some of the job that we need. I think the way SL has changed in recent years probably means his days of being highly competitive for trophies are over, but he might well get do some of the groundwork needed to get us on that path. My main concern would be the promotion of youth, it's not really something that stands out in his career.

There's quite a big difference there. We were scraping into the 8 after making finals and threatening to establish ourselves amongst the top sides, with a strong, expensive-looking squad. Noble 'scraped' the 8 with a club who had only existed for 5 years, were in only their 2nd season in SL (finishing bottom in their first), with a team assembled in a few weeks, after taking the job in circumstances that included the owner walking away and 6 of their squad being deported. It is so far (and possibly will forever be) the only time that club has finished higher than bottom of the top flight. It was not even close to being the same as Hull coaches (and even the previous board) have been criticised for, it was a season of significant overachievement in difficult circumstances compared to years of underachievement.

Poor AP

He has tried to put a winning team in place and has come up short, getting a winning coaching team in place is the aim of every sporting club. I can not think of any other RL club that has over the last nine years failed to put together a winning formula with such consistency, its like we are setting out to fail. AP was always up against it due to the previous owners having run out of credibility with the fan base, that same owners that saved our club from oblivion I may add. I do think that the hardest job in RL is being coach at either Wigan or FC as the fan base are very vocal and not backward at coming forward when they either think or know that things are not right.

I do not think Lee Radford is a bad coach, I do think he made head coach a tad too quick and when things go wrong and at FC they go wrong every week he has very little experience to draw back on. Was Gentle sacked a bit hastily, I think he was with hindsight and that decision will haunt us for a long time. Lee will in time grow into probably a good coach if he is allowed too, he has not got the time at FC as a few more losses and a derby loss will almost certainly be the end of his reign. AP can saay what ever he wants about having the "faith" at the end of the day when the crowds, sales start to fall and when the crowd openly turn on both the team and coach he has not room to left. He has to act as he has done before and as previous chairman of both FC and every other sports team have always done. With our current track record I doubt many would relish taking the job on and attracting a suitable replacement would be difficult , so lets not kid ourselves we are all responsible and all victims of circumstances we are now in.

If I was AP I would try and bring in an "advisor" and yes I would go for Noble now. He has a proven track record and I think could work with Lee at the end of the day sacking him would do him and the club no good long term. Doing nothing now is not an option as the longer this goes on then the option of an advisor becomes less of an option, game on game.

The thing is though Ian, it is AP own mistakes and impetuousness that are the reason we are in the position we are right now.
We HAD a coach whom was taking us in the right direction, two solid 6th places and a Wembley appearance in Gentle's first two seasons with the youth system only just starting to kick in and on the back of Agar's tenure and the lack of investment in the club it was a near miracle.

People here have slagged off Gentle and bomber saying contracts for mates/relations and overpaid X, Y, Z player or everything that was positive was down to Radford & everything negative down to Gentle (without any substance mind) yet that team of players under PG performed vastly superior to the one last year and indeed so far this year.

I think LR is a bad coach, he'll never make it at a the top level, he just doesn't have it in ANY dept. A tad too quickly..understatement of the decade

I've no faith in someone whom was complicit in the forcing out of our previous coach and not prepared to keep to his word regarding his performance and that of the team and just leaving. I've no faith in someone that scratches around for excuses and can't see his own failures.
The sad thing is, is that AP is his own worst enemy, he can't see it and before long he'll get peed off enough he'll be wanting to get us off his portfolio, he's a proper Jekyll & Hyde character.

Some decent points there Ian but also for me some not so good.
I don't know how you can say being a coach at Wigan or hull is the most difficult job I find that rather insulting do the other clubs some even larger then ourselves not demand or want the same level of success? And I'm sure the fans outside our hull FC bubble are just as vocal or vociferous.
Lee is currently a bad coach otherwise we wouldn't be in this mess. He's coached amateur rugby had very little time as an assistant and now taken a SL job all too soon for my liking.
I don't know how you can also say we are all also responsible, responsible for what exactly? Do you really believe coaches or players are deterred or put off by fans opinions? I think not and have never been convinced by that b.s.
And why do thinks go wrong on a weekly basis at hull, based on what exactly? Off the field our house is now in order, certain playing staff and coaches have been our only frailties thus far as far as I can see.
Why waste money on an advisor too if Lee isn't up for the job then he isn't up for the job. He firmly took the role believing he was.
And long term keeping Lee as a coach if results and performances don't improve seems far worse then cutting him loose sooner when our season and potential dwindling fan base can be salvaged.

I didn't want Gentle to be sacked and didn't want Radford to be appointed. Like others I believe he got the job too early.

His win ratio is pretty poor but some of our results and performances have made me think perhaps he does have what it takes but needs more time. The problem is the new format doesn't allow us to give him more time.

There is a very real risk that we could be going back to work after Easter with one win out of 9 and over a third of the season gone. We would then have no chance of making the top 8.

Pearson could hold his nerve and we might turn things round and be 4 from 9 after Easter Monday if we beat Catalans, Cas and Rovers but that's a big if (when did we last win 3 in a row?)

Alternatively Pearson could decide to pull the trigger after the next 2 or 3 games if we lose them all. However the problem then is, who does he appoint? Who is there who is any good who is immediately available?

His predicament is largely of his own making but I don't envy him having to decide what to do next.

That's the thing being fans we don't know who's out there but behind the scenes with contacts and agents I'm sure it's all different world.
Saying Lee was sacked again who knows who'll come out of the woodwork with an application.
I'd rather have that uncertainty then continue as we are.

I think that being the coach of either Wigan or FC as an hot seat, Wigan where the fans have always been demanding and want success now, not next week or next season and FC has developed that way due to the constant spin and false promises we have had in recent seasons. We are under performing and have been for year on year, with a little bit of glory here and there to keep interests higher then was really due. The difference with then and now is we are out of rope, no time left we either start performing PDQ or thousands will walk away at the end of the season. A lot of people threw there weight behind the present set up in our 150th year, a final act of faith for many and I do not think the same fans will back it up next term.

The next few weeks are so vital, I am struggling to find a win amongst our next four outings. I do not think our squad is as good as it looks on paper

4 games in and the word "crisis" bounded about says it all

As several fans have pointed out we are short of an aggressive front row and with the exception of Shaul and Lineham the slowest back line in Super league.
Ellis and Mini are up there with the best but Westerman looks to be overweight and off the pace which is disappointing.
Its a bit scary when the coach has to recall Howarth from Doncaster.
Whats next for Pearson? Well he has dug a deep hole for himself with his public backing of Radford if it all goes pear shaped.

That's a new one.

August 2013. Coincidentally, it was right after the run of 5 league losses that Pearson said made his mind up about getting rid of Gentle.

We've actually only managed even 2 consecutive wins on one occasion since (competitive games).

simon moran spent a huge amount at wire in every aspect of the club except coaching and it got him the square root of feck all. He spends big on a proven coach and all of a sudden they have 3 CC wins, a league leaders shield and 2 GF appearances. It's not rocket science. You won't win anything without a good coach in place. I've said all along that appointing yet another untried coach was too much of a risk for the club in the situation we were in.

I agree,your post says it all about both clubs.

A supporter from another club summed it up pre-season about both clubs - we both go out and spend the full cap bringing in decent quality, we both have a large fan base, we both play in decent stadiums (might be pushing it with Craven park but it is much improved) then its like we have no money left for a coach so go scraping down the back of the sofa and find a few old boiled sweets and a couple of coppers - that then gets you Radford and Chester

Radford got shot of miller due to the fact that he didnt have time to develop him, he needed wins and instant success , as his job could be on the line otherwise, and anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves, miller will be a top player in my opinion,

Radford couldn't afford to give Miller more time and Pearson may not be able to afford to give Radford more time. Quite ironic really.

How about trying to get John Kear back, working with Radders?

Jesus H. Miller, again? Really?

Did these people not watch the 2nd half of Wakey v Saints? They saw the ONE AND ONLY decent thing he did all game and big him up as the next JT.
Miller, despite me desperately wanting him to be, wasn't, never was, nor will he ever be a top HB. He's at Wakey for a reason!

Pearson - So what next?

What's next is he carries on and sees through his plan of action, as anything else would be complete lunacy and a sign of real panic & weakness.

Is Miller the new Heremaia?

Could it be they are both benefitting from good coaching ?

Its more our fans loving to criticise, so any former player that has 1good game automatically becomes a mistake that will come back to haunt us.