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| Quote ="old frightful"The one thing I can't get my head around regarding Radford's appointment is that Pearson gave him a three year contract.
Now, Pearson always seems fairly savvy to me when I hear him talk although I know he's still probably not up to speed on all things RL but three years for an unproven "coach"?
Surely he wouldn't have even considered that when wearing his football club owner's hat.
One year in which to prove himself would have been understandable although one year too much for me but three is just madness.
Did he not take advice from anybody?'"
He can't blame nobody other than himself for this ridiculous appointment .
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| Quote ="hull smallears"I will do it myself in the short term, I reckon I cannot do any worse.'"
Well if Motu's collecting C.V's, my missus fits the current criteria perfectly
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| Quote ="westdock boy in oz"Well if Motu's collecting C.V's, my missus fits the current criteria perfectly
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| Quote ="westdock boy in oz"Well if Motu's collecting C.V's, my missus fits the current criteria perfectly
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To be fair I think you've got mixed up with the criteria for the position of England coach there mate!
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| I've always been a bit of a sucker for the backs against the wall mentality, backing the underdog when the majority are whipping themselves into a hysterical froth (and christ, there's a few on here).
If the owner of the club that many of us are emotionally involved with decides to stick with the current status quo then so be it.
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| Quote ="westdock boy in oz"Well if Motu's collecting C.V's, my missus fits the current criteria perfectly
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"Lee Radford's post match interview for a start!!
He said he's not going to make excuses and doesn't want to talk about why we are operating on a cap of 1.2..'"
Crumbs. Nick Barmby was sacked for less. Lucky for Radford that AP was also on the receiving end of that fall out.
2 implications are suggested by that remark:
a) That Radford and Pearson are complicit in the shortfall and have exciting plans as to how it will be spent, or
b) Radford is frustrated that Pearson is withholding the shortfall and feels by doing this Pearson is compromising his, Radfords, ability to do the best job. Viz., Pearson can be added to the list of people being offered by Radford as the reason for our woes.
Either way, I can't see AP being happy he's let it slip if we are miles under cap.
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| We're not under cap, it's radford making another excuse
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"We're not under cap, it's radford making another excuse'"
An even bigger reason for Pearson to be angry at the remark, then.
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| If we are under the cap, we are not almost half a million under. And even if we were, the squad we have is still better than 12th, regardless of how much we have spent. So whatever way you look at it it's just more excuses.
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| Well we're being lied to somewhere..
Last season we released;
Galea, Lynch, McDonnell (all apparently big earners). During this season we also released Pitts and Arundel. Probably more in there aswell but can't think right now.
And brought in; Talanoa, Carvell (for a couple of months), Rankin, Feka and Colbon. And Sa but his salary doesn't count.
Paea being the only one I expect to be a big earner.
Not good use of the cap IMO..
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| This is a real pointless discussion.
Nobody has any idea what the players earn, who counts on cap, what players got upgrades etc.
Pearson has said that we are operating at full cap so you have to believe him, off this us the case then it's obvious that we are over paying some players massively, this us something we are trying to address by getting rid of some players who don't offer value for money. However until the coaching structure is sorted who we have in the side is going to be irrelevant.
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| Regardless of whether or not we are under cap (which is, I agree, a pointlessly labyrinthine discussion as nobody knows players' earnings) the issue is that Radford has come out and said we are at £1.2M when Pearson has stated we are at full cap. Whichever way you look at it, Pearson will not be happy at this undermining of him (as I said, his mate was sacked for less). Radford has either let slip they are complicit with money to spend or that Pearson is holding funds back and Radford isn't happy about it. Or Radford's lying in a radio interview to save face and protect his back from the wrath of the fans. Pearson must be furious whichever is true.
You're definite Radford did say this on air, FC Wembley 08?
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Regardless of whether or not we are under cap (which is, I agree, a pointlessly labyrinthine discussion as nobody knows players' earnings) the issue is that Radford has come out and said we are at £1.2M when Pearson has stated we are at full cap. Whichever way you look at it, Pearson will not be happy at this undermining of him (as I said, his mate was sacked for less). Radford has either let slip they are complicit with money to spend or that Pearson is holding funds back and Radford isn't happy about it. Or Radford's lying in a radio interview to save face and protect his back from the wrath of the fans. Pearson must be furious whichever is true.
You're definite Radford did say this on air, FC Wembley 08?'"
Yep.
He said he didn't want to talk about why we are operating on a cap of 1.2
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"Yep.
He said he didn't want to talk about why we are operating on a cap of 1.2'"
Well well well. He's boobed, imo.
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| does apathy come with age, or age come with apathy?
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| Quote ="Standee"does apathy come with age, or age come with apathy?'"
Which ever one you want to select?
I understand the disappointment and disillusionment.
Just continually looking for smoking gun minutiae is rather tiresome from some posters though.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Which ever one you want to select?
I understand the disappointment and disillusionment.
Just continually looking for smoking gun minutiae is rather tiresome from some posters though.'"
as tiresome as constant looking on the bright side, we all want the same, and I fear we are not getting it anytime soon.
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| Quote ="Standee"as tiresome as constant looking on the bright side, we all want the same, and I fear we are not getting it anytime soon.'"
You really are an egg and chips man at times mate.
Everything in life isn't defined by choosing one side or the other.
Just because I choose not to join the beration gang doesn't mean I believe the garden is in full bloom.
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| So he's blamed the players, he's blamed the fans, now he's blaming the chairman/club? He'll be blaming God next...
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| Quote ="WIZEB"
Just continually looking for smoking gun minutiae is rather tiresome from some posters though.'"
I [iam[/i a bit tired of it all at the minute. Sick of new dawns breaking. Really thought it was cracked 2 seasons ago with Gentle, and I can't quite follow how we've ended up down this particular dead end.
I'm more worried now than I was during Agar's tenure. At least then we knew the root cause was the apathy towards our future thanks to Kath and Co., with their necks constantly craned down the M62 towards Leeds. I think Pearson made the right choice with Gentle, but not with McRae, but he's certainly chucked the baby out with the bathwater this season. I really think it's crisis time. Sorry. Because it's my belief Pearson has acted under poor advice and now it appears under no advice at all other than Radford's.
I'm not by nature a negative poster, and I even got excited about Radford's start to the season, I thought all was going to be well. But it was a false dawn and unless something is done PDQ we'll be in Agar territory again with no apparent end in sight.
So maybe I am being a bit tiresome. And maybe I am clutching at straws hoping AP was annoyed by Radford's surprising comment during the interview. Do I think it's a smoking gun? No, I think Pearson will hang onto Radford. I merely think he will have been angry at what was said, and in the current climate that won't harm and maybe it's planted a seed.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"I [iam[/i a bit tired of it all at the minute. Sick of new dawns breaking. Really thought it was cracked 2 seasons ago with Gentle, and I can't quite follow how we've ended up down this particular dead end.
I'm more worried now than I was during Agar's tenure. At least then we knew the root cause was the apathy towards our future thanks to Kath and Co., with their necks constantly craned down the M62 towards Leeds. I think Pearson made the right choice with Gentle, but not with McRae, but he's certainly chucked the baby out with the bathwater this season. I really think it's crisis time. Sorry. Because it's my belief Pearson has acted under poor advice and now it appears under no advice at all other than Radford's.
I'm not by nature a negative poster, and I even got excited about Radford's start to the season, I thought all was going to be well. But it was a false dawn and unless something is done PDQ we'll be in Agar territory again with no apparent end in sight.
So maybe I am being a bit tiresome. And maybe I am clutching at straws hoping AP was annoyed by Radford's surprising comment during the interview. Do I think it's a smoking gun? No, I think Pearson will hang onto Radford. I merely think he will have been angry at what was said, and in the current climate that won't harm and maybe it's planted a seed.'"
If it's any consolation Wormy, and if anyone can be @rsed to trawl this forum, I was probably the most vehement poster against the McRae appointment when it was initially announced.
That as well as telling everybody who cared to listen that our former Chief Executive was a complete t0sspot and look how all that ended in tears!
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