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| Yes we All know its first game of season long way to go yet etc..;
Gentle has not helped with our bigger stronger faster talk. Players talking to the media hyping their game up.. then we go out and compete for 60 mins !! it should not be acceptable to the Club or the Fans.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"According to some we're a mickey poor side without the players to do anything.
Apply some logic, and common sense and it's not that bad. We were away at the world n super league champions, who were imo as good as teams get on an opening night. Few players didn't play well uncharacteristically, lost our marque signing beforehand and have a full attacking unit ie our 1,6,7,9 and 13 getting used to each other.
Saints are 1of the favourites. Working on hull fan mentality how would we be reacting if we were as bad as saints tonight! Be a jump in suicide rates I think. Ha'"
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Madness really! Cannot understand how people forget the lessons of the past. Leeds got tonked a few times over the last couple of yrs and struggled for massive periods of the season s and ended champions. Wigan got well beat in the 1st game last year n then lead the league for 2thirds of the yr. N last year our over hyped friendly result had the doom n glom merchants out in force and then we were good for a long period of the season until injuries hurt us. We have the makings of a good team, and we will be. Said for a long time it'll be Easter gone before we're at our best, just need to be smarter to have a chance of wins while finding our best form. Suddenly on last night's game our pack is weak? Utter Tripe! Lynch 1of the best warhorse style props in the league, ogre a player opposition forwards hate playing. Potentially have the best hooking interchange in the league. Danny will not likely be as bad ever again. Westy on his day can be great. Green looks like a potential star. And we were missing Ellis-obvious, watts-our biggest physically and best offloader. Tickle-Mr consistent grafter and points machine.
People need to get a grip!
I'm not even that old but I've seen many hull teams that were poor, genuinely utterly dire poor, and I still didn't hear moaning n whinging like this!
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"Madness really! Cannot understand how people forget the lessons of the past. Leeds got tonked a few times over the last couple of yrs and struggled for massive periods of the season s and ended champions. Wigan got well beat in the 1st game last year n then lead the league for 2thirds of the yr. N last year our over hyped friendly result had the doom n glom merchants out in force and then we were good for a long period of the season until injuries hurt us. We have the makings of a good team, and we will be. Said for a long time it'll be Easter gone before we're at our best, just need to be smarter to have a chance of wins while finding our best form. Suddenly on last night's game our pack is weak? Utter Tripe! Lynch 1of the best warhorse style props in the league, ogre a player opposition forwards hate playing. Potentially have the best hooking interchange in the league. Danny will not likely be as bad ever again. Westy on his day can be great. Green looks like a potential star. And we were missing Ellis-obvious, watts-our biggest physically and best offloader. Tickle-Mr consistent grafter and points machine.
People need to get a grip!
I'm not even that old but I've seen many hull teams that were poor, genuinely utterly dire poor, and I still didn't hear moaning n whinging like this!'"
How dare you come on here with a positive outlook and supporting the players?,don`t you know where you are?
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| Quote ="barton baird"Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"Madness really! Cannot understand how people forget the lessons of the past. Leeds got tonked a few times over the last couple of yrs and struggled for massive periods of the season s and ended champions. Wigan got well beat in the 1st game last year n then lead the league for 2thirds of the yr. N last year our over hyped friendly result had the doom n glom merchants out in force and then we were good for a long period of the season until injuries hurt us. We have the makings of a good team, and we will be. Said for a long time it'll be Easter gone before we're at our best, just need to be smarter to have a chance of wins while finding our best form. Suddenly on last night's game our pack is weak? Utter Tripe! Lynch 1of the best warhorse style props in the league, ogre a player opposition forwards hate playing. Potentially have the best hooking interchange in the league. Danny will not likely be as bad ever again. Westy on his day can be great. Green looks like a potential star. And we were missing Ellis-obvious, watts-our biggest physically and best offloader. Tickle-Mr consistent grafter and points machine.
People need to get a grip!
I'm not even that old but I've seen many hull teams that were poor, genuinely utterly dire poor, and I still didn't hear moaning n whinging like this!'"
How dare you come on here with a positive outlook and supporting the players?,don`t you know where you are?'"
Ha I know. Rebellious ain't i!!
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| Quote ="boardwalkempire"Yes we All know its first game of season long way to go yet etc..;
Gentle has not helped with our bigger stronger faster talk. Players talking to the media hyping their game up.. then we go out and compete for 60 mins !! it should not be acceptable to the Club or the Fans.'"
I am in agreement with you & I am not bothered whether St. Helens or any other club play well or badly, my concern is for Hull. I like many others want them to improve & allowing for some changes in personnel in the close season etc., I did not see any improvement from them @ Leeds.
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| rovers beating the french today will make it even worse for some
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"rovers beating the french today will make it even worse for some'"
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| When Leeds , Saints , Wigan etc get thumped and go through bad patches their fans may get a bit upset like us but then they can take comfort from the fact that it will be a blip and in very recent history can point to similar blips which have then been forgotten as they win the cup or the league or stay in the big four in that very same season. Us on the otherhand look back and see the same old pattern so I think it's not unexpected that when we lose to Leeds in a similar way to previous seasons that the liklihood is that nothing much will change. I need to see evidence on the field that we're bigger , faster and smarter before I can start to be optimistic and after the KR friendly and the Leeds game there is none.
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| Quote ="Ivanhoe"Quote ="boardwalkempire"Yes we All know its first game of season long way to go yet etc..;
Gentle has not helped with our bigger stronger faster talk. Players talking to the media hyping their game up.. then we go out and compete for 60 mins !! it should not be acceptable to the Club or the Fans.'"
I am in agreement with you & I am not bothered whether St. Helens or any other club play well or badly, my concern is for Hull. I like many others want them to improve & allowing for some changes in personnel in the close season etc., I did not see any improvement from them @ Leeds.'"
If you looked closely there were signs. Very close mind. McDonnell chimed into the line a few times in good attacking positions but the ball was to pedestrian n slow to get to him. Had it been done right it would have been hard to defend. We were a lot deeper in attack on some plays than I've seen before, we moved the ball right across the line a few times even in our own 20. None of these things stood out though because of the slow poor manner they were executed. We tried a over ambitious play off the scrum n immediately lost the ball, another day that would have been a break. On the few times we kicked on the front foot you could see it was better. Holdsworth 1st kick after we'd been held to 15 metres n they picked it up on their 10was something I haven't seen 4about 6yrs.
Defence at times was great, would have definitely conceded more in that opening 60mins in yrs gone by.
To many didn't turn up on the night for whatever reason. Especially Danny Houghton n whiting I'd not expect them to play as poor ever again. Westy n galea are better than that as well.
I expect a big jump in improvement by Bradford n then weekly improvements as we go along. Will take time though. Watts n tickle back will help matters to
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| What a lot of poster have forgotten we had 7 new players in the team ,They have to gel
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| What do some people expect the coaches & players to say when the reporters go round asking how preseason is going? Hardly going to sell tickets if they say how we're behind schedule, not very confident of winning the 1st game or in fact any games are they? Seriously.
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| Some people on her really need to get a grip. We have played one game... Seriously!!
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| We failed to sign a scrum half and that is the one signing all of us could see we needed, the lack of that one signing I feel is going to cast a long shadow over this season. This will put immense pressure on the club to succeed, this more then any other season we have to be pushing for honours as far too many hopes have been raised to fever pitch.
It looks bad at the moment but I always look at things after six games and you get a better idea of how the land lies. I have thought if we got four points from the first four games we where doing ok.
We are not at even two games yet
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| To the posters who say its the first game !!!! . Fridays performance followed on just as bad as last seasons ..
Ask yourselves was there any improvement from last season game at headingley ?.
Lets be realistic in pro sport you big yourself up publicly you get the opposition fired up and thats just what we did for leeds
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| Quote ="boardwalkempire"To the posters who say its the first game !!!! . Fridays performance followed on just as bad as last seasons ..
[uAsk yourselves was there any improvement from last season game at headingley [/u?.
Lets be realistic in pro sport you big yourself up publicly you get the opposition fired up and thats just what we did for leeds'"
we scored a try!
seriously though it is 1 game!
no doubt you and a few others are already fearing the worst! a loss at headingley, where our record is quite poor isn't going to define our season!
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| I think before anyone leaves your lot, you should see what happens against Bradford next week, a team you beat twice last year including a total mullering.
TBF though Leeds have not lost an opening round game since early 2000's i think, but i did think you would have nicked it, extremely unlucky to lose Ellis before the game as i think much of your play may depend on him leading from the from. How does it look for him anyway?
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| Trouble in camp aparently ... Galae doesnt feel comftable singing old faithfull and Gentles has backed him not to have to sing it , camp split in 2 over it . Anyone heard it ?
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"Trouble in camp aparently ... Galae doesnt feel comftable singing old faithfull and Gentles has backed him not to have to sing it , camp split in 2 over it . Anyone heard it ?'"
Cant see this being true, we have to win 1st before the players sing it!!
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"Trouble in camp aparently ... Galae doesnt feel comftable singing old faithfull and Gentles has backed him not to have to sing it , camp split in 2 over it . Anyone heard it ?'"
If true he can S0D OFF
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"If true he can S0D OFF'"
He was a baffling signing, along with giving O'Meley another year, there must be a real lack of available options for us to have made these signings.
Maybe they will prove me wrong in coming weeks, but I fear they won't, along with Holdsworth, we've got a Waitrose budget and bought a Primark team I am afraid.
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| Bit doom and gloom all this. I'm a Leeds fan (sorry, born and raised there) but I have a lot of family in Hull and always keep an eye on what's going on there.
My take is this:
You've played 1 game. You did this with a much changed side in it's first competitive run out, away from home against what is, let's face it, the most settled squad in the league. And one that's trying to peak a bit earlier than most for a WCC in February. You then lost one of the world's best forwards during the warm up. For all that, your lads showed plenty of spirit to turn round level at half time. Ran out of steam a bit, and I thought we were the better side and you were hanging on a touch, but I'd also bet Leeds are a bit further on in the fitness stakes (in view of the above mentioned WCC, and given that I think most conditioning coaches accept you can't peak all season) which will have had an effect.
I think there are still question marks around the Hull revolution. Most notably, where does that "x factor" come from - replacing Manu with Ellis is not a straight swap, Ellis is, in my view, a better player all round, but Manu is a game breaker and I wonder where that will come from. YOu need to see how the halves gel, still not clear, and finally I'm not convinced by Shannon McDonnell yet. But all those are still questions to be answered, positive or negative. I don't think Friday answered them conclusively in the negative.
I expect Hull to be one of 7 teams sniffing around for the top 4 places (Leeds, Wire, Saints, Pies, Dragons, Hudds) at the end of the season, and probably to finish stronger than you start.
And if what I hear about investment in the academy is true, then Pearson's revolution shouldn't be judged after one season, never mind one game. Keep the faith yer miserable gets.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Bit doom and gloom all this. I'm a Leeds fan (sorry, born and raised there) but I have a lot of family in Hull and always keep an eye on what's going on there.
My take is this:
You've played 1 game. You did this with a much changed side in it's first competitive run out, away from home against what is, let's face it, the most settled squad in the league. And one that's trying to peak a bit earlier than most for a WCC in February. You then lost one of the world's best forwards during the warm up. For all that, your lads showed plenty of spirit to turn round level at half time. Ran out of steam a bit, and I thought we were the better side and you were hanging on a touch, but I'd also bet Leeds are a bit further on in the fitness stakes (in view of the above mentioned WCC, and given that I think most conditioning coaches accept you can't peak all season) which will have had an effect.
I think there are still question marks around the Hull revolution. Most notably, where does that "x factor" come from - replacing Manu with Ellis is not a straight swap, Ellis is, in my view, a better player all round, but Manu is a game breaker and I wonder where that will come from. YOu need to see how the halves gel, still not clear, and finally I'm not convinced by Shannon McDonnell yet. But all those are still questions to be answered, positive or negative. I don't think Friday answered them conclusively in the negative.
I expect Hull to be one of 7 teams sniffing around for the top 4 places (Leeds, Wire, Saints, Pies, Dragons, Hudds) at the end of the season, and probably to finish stronger than you start.
And if what I hear about investment in the academy is true, then Pearson's revolution shouldn't be judged after one season, never mind one game. Keep the faith yer miserable gets.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"You can come again
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| amazing never thought I would be made to feel better by a l**ds fan!!!!!
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| Quote ="subwaysav"amazing never thought I would be made to feel better by a l**ds fan!!!!!'"
He's only saying what lots of our fans have been saying all along. Let's see what the next few weeks bring before we start losing faith.
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