Ah, definately too old then!

so mcdonnel is more worried about his hair..crookes shouldnt be in the team ahead of lineman..arundel is a defensive liability..briscoe is dreaming of oz..seymour is rubbish..holdsworth hasnt played well yet..lynch and o"melely were "missing" for most of the game..houghton was too slow ..galea wasnt up to it ..westy played in patches..pitts to small for a prop..whiting poor..green ok ..no wonder we lost we only played with 3 players do we all stay at home now and say this is the worst hull fc team ever AGAIN or do we turn up and support our team

Whats with the double full stops..Makes it so hard to read..is there any real need for this..Or is it just me?

Pedantic I know but what's the point to it?

Anways back to the point, we should stick with Seymour and DJ and let them gel more. Seymour isn't the answer although neither is Heremaia or Horne at half back either. We don't need a world class half, we just need a really good one. Who that will be and when is another matter.
We're almost a brand new team so I'm hoping that we can actually throw the ball across the park alot faster, and spread teams because at the minute we don't and we haven't been able to for years.

Your not wrong there !!!!!!!!!!
I saw enough in Seymore to know he will come good but he cant work behind a beaten pack regardless of how good he is or isnt.
The bigger issue for me was Omeley and Lynch as both looked completely knackered after just a couple of runs apiece, Omeley looked was blowing like a tug after just one run.... therlies the issue for me this season, a man who knows hes going thus going through the motions so far...
Yeah hes big and bad but also well past his sell by date IMO

FC will come good but cant see Omeley ripping up any trees this year

Until our play the ball quickens up- not even Thurston could improve us.

We looked a better team, attack wise, when Heremia came on.

Were we at the same game? Brett Seymour was awful. If he wasn't dropping the ball, he was missing tackles or giving penalties away. Andy Lynch was quite good in a pack that got well beat on the night.

I often think that some people on this forum watch a game with their agenda already set. They have certain players who they do not like for some reason and, irrespective of the player's performance, will find something negative to say about them. All players have good days and bad days (its a human being sort of thing), none of them deliberately go onto the field to play badly. Its time people backed off and encouraged, rather than criticised our team. We're one game into the season and we all know that there is a long way to go and that our team will improve, starting on Friday.

I admit that I don't like Seymour and I don't think that he's the half-back to take us forward. But I did admit that he should have started on Friday night. He played well in the friendlies and justified his selection. But he was poor against Leeds.

On that basis then, you don't like any of them because with possibly a couple of exceptions they were all poor.

That doesn't compute. I don't like Seymour but if he has a good game then I will say. How did you think he played Friday night?

I actually think he didn't do too badly. Our pack was apalling and offered no opportunities to the half backs. Consequently they were spending most of their time defending and Seymour was up there with the best of them in that department.

Fair enough that's your opinion. Mine differs. But as you say we need to get behind the boys on Friday night. We've got to get on the board before we travel to Saints I feel.

I am neither a Seymour or Holdsworth fan, but they both did a stack of tackling (compared to what should be expected)behind a beaten pack.

Daniel Holdsworth has been refused permission to practice his kicking on the pitch at KC. What a joke

we've never been allowed to practice on the pitch

they didnt want to train on the pitch it was just for Holdsworth to practice some goal kickin and kick offs just for 15mins

We have previously been able to carry out short periods of kicking practice though.

Also I understood that the ban used to apply to both us and City...

if that's no longer the case then things have changed, be interesting to know if it's Allam that has ultimately stopped us, an appeal to the actual OWNERS of the facility should be AP's next step if that's the case. I have tenants call me and say "the agency said I can't do x but I'd really like to, can I have your permission"

The 'owners' have no control. The company that has control is the SMC. The person in control of the SMC is Mr Allam... Sorry, we're stuck with the poisonous b**t**d...

I really dislike the man!!

Of course the owners have control, the SMC manage it on their behalf, wether the Council has any apetite to get involved would be an entirely different matter.

I'm affraid we have, I've been and watched em a few times times in 2004/5/6 there have even been open training sessions on sponsors nights over the years.

Originally there was an agreement with the SMC (although not in the lease) that that Hull FC could use the pitch for one session before each home game and the same went for City (although in fairness we didn't always use it far from it in fact) then it became us using it at mutually acceptable times and now I believe we can't use it.......... sign of the times really! If what going on everywhere else at the KC is anything to go by we would probably have to pay for it if we wanted to train on it!

It would be interesting to know if City still train on it.

some thing has to be done about the smc(allems) they seam to be intent of destroying hull fc the doing evey thing to this end. what is they end game?

From their point of view City have a real possibility of being a Premier League side next season, so they are increasing their revenue streams (hence why the cost of facilities etc. has increased at the KC), so I can understand that side of things (even though I do not agree with it).

I don't think the Allams have anything against Hull FC, it's a personal battle between them and AP, unfortunately for AP they have much deeper pockets. They didn't need to buy YPI, it was done to spite AP, but as I say, I doubt they care either way about Hull FC as an entity in it's own right.

Trouble is its not HUll City that are doing all this it is the SMC (all be it one of the same thing as far as Mr A is concerned) and anything to do with the Stadium and income gained from Hull FC should be going into what is an ailing management Company responsible for the upkeep of the Stadium for its two tenants and not into Hull City. You'll argue they are one of the same thing but they legally are not, if the ownership of the SMC had been independant of the football Club and the rugby Club this would never have happened. It wil get worse before it gets better if it ever will get better. Be affraid!!! About time the Mail got involved and we got some clarification!

Here Here !! I agree with every word you say. You've saved me a job.