Who does, me?

Wakefield

Lost me when you said "you"
I'm no Wakefield fan!

What lies have Andrew Glover and James Elston told to be accused of being habitual liars?

Who was the nutjob pearlman? who lied about money and wakefield came up promosing to alter ground and play games at Barnsley whilst bv was done...guess what..its still a dump

Jesus that's would be like accusing Hull FC of being unstable because David Lloyd locked you out of the Boulevard and because Tim Wilby was a shonky businessman and because you needed bailing out to the tune of 1.25 Million pounds by merging with Gateshead and....and....and

You know what it's ancient history and not relevant and neither is the guff you've just dragged up.

We was never locked out of the boulevard at all.

I don't operate on belief, mate. I like to work with facts. And at the moment there are none in the public domain other than a story in a local paper. Let's see what transpires before jumping to conclusions.

This never happened.


That figure was the [icombined[/i debt of Hull and Gateshead at the time of the merger.

Not good with facts, are you?

OK pedant, Lloyd made the threat after you defaulted on rent payments.

That figure was the incentive offered to all clubs and paid to Hull FC by the RFL/SLE for agreeing a merger. The original offer was supposed to incentivise clubs like Cas & Wakey to merge but was then ised to bail Hull FC and Huddersfield out.

Neither of these points were the point though but I'll make allowances for you.

Wrong again.


No money was paid to Hull FC.

Not big on facts are you, mate!

You call it how you want, mate, I'll go with what I know.

Care to point out what's incorrect with the statement you quoted?

And speculation is not the same as belief. Look the words up.

To borrow a phrase - you know nowt.

Quote ="Kosh"Care to point out what's incorrect with the statement you quoted? And speculation is not the same as belief. Look the words up.'" I looked this up for you instead! www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 41473.html

Quote ="Kosh"Care to point out what's incorrect with the statement you quoted? And speculation is not the same as belief. Look the words up.'" I looked this up for you instead! www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 41473.html

Sorry, I forgot to be moronic





Rectified

To coin a phrase, you know nowt!

Quote ="BoxerTom"I looked this up for you instead! www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 41473.html'" You clearly didn't read it. Here's a couple of pertinent facts from the article: Quote The merger's acceptance means =#0040FFthe new club will receive £1.25m over two years.'" Quote the payment to the new club will satisfy the creditors of Hull and Gateshead'"

Quote ="BoxerTom"I looked this up for you instead! www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 41473.html'" You clearly didn't read it. Here's a couple of pertinent facts from the article: Quote The merger's acceptance means =#0040FFthe new club will receive £1.25m over two years.'" Quote the payment to the new club will satisfy the creditors of Hull and Gateshead'"

Quite the opposite.

That's the new, merged, club receiving cash to pay off the creditors of both the pre-merger clubs then? Not a payment to the old Hull club to accept the merger?

Here's another clue for free: Look up the composition of the Gateshead board before the merger and the new Hull FC after the merger. Then tell me who received the money.

Hull FC were the new club, so they got the 1.25 million. Who they paid with it is irrelevant to the debate.

Semantics

Are you accepting then that the current Hull club are only 13 or so years old and have no claim to the history of the original Hull club they replaced after the Gateshead merger?

Hardly, since my original point was that the 1.25 million figure was the combined debt of both clubs prior to the merger and not some kind of inducement paid to only one half. And the article backs that up. The Gateshead BOD bought out Lloyd, merged the clubs, and received the cash to pay off the [icombined[/i creditors.

Anyway - I'm off to bed now. Feel free to have the last word.

Nope. Because the operating companies were merged (not the sports clubs) and the new operating company - Hull Super League Limited - opted to continue with the Hull sports club rather than the Gateshead one.

If I wanted to be [ireally[/i pedantic then not even the new, merged Hull FC received any cash. The money went to Hull Super League Limited.

And that really is my last post. It's been a slice.

Last word or not, the £1.25million was a figure offered by the RFL & SL to any 2 clubs agreeing to merge, Huddersfield received exactly the same amount when absorbing Sheffield.

If it then went to pay creditors that's irrelevant, the point is the offer from the RFL was there and Hull took it, they did so as a method of bailing themselves out.

Now either the pre merged Hull is also the new Hull in which case you're statement is wrong or the pre merged Hull came to an end in which case the current Hull FC has no claim to the history of the old club, which is it?