Shouldn't have been 6 against us either, though. Westerman was done for ball steals twice which were clearly no such thing. Our discipline [iis[/i sloppy and needs to improve, but it was not as bad as the penalty count last night suggested, just as Rovers' wasn't as good as it suggested.

You'll be defending Manu's ballsteal on Dobson next

Hemmings is the joke, I don't know why anyone still gets upset about him

I agree, I'm angrier about that than the actual officiating. Basically, he publically praised inept officiating as good for the game because it creates excitement and unpredictability. No, it undermines the sport at a fundamental level. If you can't manage to get your officials up to scratch you don't deserve to be a professional sport, it's a shambles of amateur standards.

No I won't, he pulled the ball out of his hands in a 2-on-1, that's a penalty. Westerman was penalised for the ball colliding with his knee as the Rovers player went to play it, FFS. That's the attacking player's responsibility to keep control of the ball. On the other he had his arm trapped by the attacker between ball and ribcage, then the penalty was played for as he removed his arm. This is creeping in a lot, along with the 'holding down the tackler and claiming interference Sam Tomkins style', and largely the referees would seem to decide based on club colours and player reputation.

Until a system is introduced which drops referees for poor refereeing then Ganson and Thaler will always be allowed to get away with poor performances. The trouble is that there are not enough quality referees in the game and until this is corrected I cannot see any changes for the good taking place.When the sponsorship of the game is given away for free advertising then something is very wrong at the top. The money generated from bet fair could of been spent on employing 10 more full time refs and full video analysis at matches ! This standard of refereeing would not be allowed in Australia. Gentle was correct in his analysis this decision alone did not cost you the game but did contribute same as the harsh decision to sin bin Dobson. Thaler in Catalan giving a try when it was a knock on as described to him by the touch judge.
Great game of Rl though from th only true Derby !

great game, great entertainment, could be the best game of the weekend, (no doubt eddie and stevo will have their sts wigan bias derby glasses on), ganson and his linesman cost us a try, we were guilty of thinking the game was won, two major factors didnt help, from the kick off we let craig hall out jump one of our smallest players on the pitch when we should've put some one similar height opposite him, (we miss whiting in these situations), from this martin picked up his injury which rovers exploited for their try to make it 30-22, the game shouldn't have been stopped as there wasn't any interference so no complaints from me there, the dobson try should never have been allowed, regardless of who should've made the call, ganson should've been able to spot dobson in front of lovegrove when collecting the ball, if that try was ruled out i dare say we would've held on for a win, but it wasn't and after that i could only see another try coming and it was going to be from rovers as our players looked out on their feet and shell shocked!

Agree with everything.

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but Ganson didn't have a 'poor performance' he made one big error which he admitted to - the rest of the game was ok - you don't suspend or drop a ref because of one bad call - if you did then there would n't be any refs available !

regarding Mt Thaler at Perpignan - yes, the pass may have been forward which led to the try but he also gave a couple of forward passes for HKR in the same game - CS admitted quite openly at the post match press interview that the best team won and had no quibbles with the result

Ganson does this time and time again, and frequently when reffing us. This isn't the first game he's cost us with his one-eyed application of the rules and I genuinely believe that he does it deliberately. He's the only ref in SL that I think is actually bent rather than just inept.

The bloke is a cheat! There is no other word for it. He has blatantly robbed us on too many occasions for it to be even close to a coincidence.

He shouldn't be able to keep getting away with it either but the rfl will do exactly nothing.

he is not a cheat - grow up and face up to defeat !

he didn't commit twice as many penalties for FC - they actually were committed by FC

Ganson is equally as bad for all teams - he has done Saints out of loads of games over the years

every fan of every club thinks they are being victimised by Ganson - get used to it and try to get your team to hang on to a good lead without throwing it away through bad discipline...

Grow up? Who the fck do you think you're talking to? If you don't like it, go back onto your little tin pot French forum.

The bloke IS a cheat ! He has blatantly robbed us every time he has had the opportunity to do so and what a plastic Catalan supporter thinks, is unimportant.

You clearly didn't watch the game.

Yet no mention of Westerlards 3 unpunished head shots and 2 chicken wings , both on Dobson.

Probably because they only happened in the echoing chasm that is the inside of your skull.

It was an appalling refereeing display from start to finish. The amount of points he's cost us late in games is getting beyond a joke now. Yes we can say we should have held on to win but we were the better team for most of the match despite the weighted penalty count in Rovers favour. We actually had done enough to win the game and in all likelihood would have done but for that poor excuse for a referee.

Six penalties in the second half of a derby isn't in itself a terrible situation especially when coupled with a decent completion rate. Obviously we must aspire to the zero conceded by the opposition managed but in fairness such perfection in this sort would normally be regarded as a freak happening in a close fought
contest.

For those people defending Ganson, saying it was the linesmans call, Dobson dives on to the pass, no matter where you are positioned he could see that quite clearly and to say otherwise is ludicrous. He's bent no doubt.

i'm not a Catalans supporter - why do you assume I am ? as I said grow up and learn to lose...

and which 'little tin pot forum' should I go back to ?

my opinion (which I am entitled to just as you are without resorting to foul language) as a non FC or HKR fan and therefore completely unbiased is that Ganson is no cheat (and I bet you wouldn't say that to his face) but is equally as bad for you lot as he is for my lot even costing us the Championship Final a couple of years ago with a dodgy try for Leeds which was clearly offside but not given thanks to your 'cheating' mate Ganson

I don't likehim refing my team anymore than you do but it's out of our hands and up to the RFL or whoever to stop this guy ruining games

I would love to say it to his face and i even tried to as he was going down the tunnel at full time

Thierry Alibert?

And incidentally, you're entirely wrong that he didn't have a poor performance. He blatantly ignored Rovers not being square at the play the ball for the entire match, and wrongly penalised Westerman for ball steals twice. Jordan Turner was also adjudged to have knocked on over the line when he'd already stepped in touch 2 yards short. This latter may have been down to the touch judge, but could equally have been Ganson's penchant for ignoring them.

Halibut is a serial offender but point taken - let's see how he does in the Leeds game

Ganson should have action taken against him but do th RFL have the b***s to do it ?

some of the blame/responsability must lay with the linos ?

bet its water off a ducks back - he must be used to it by now ?